From nordmark-request Mon Oct 2 09:18:33 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA17454 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:18:32 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id JAA09501; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:25:23 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: BOD??? Date: 02 Oct 1995 09:03:25 GMT Message-Id: <61406.143793111@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Var h{lsade allt gott folk. Vem vet mer om BODs ant}gande deras dag i Holmrike p} onsdag?Tid? Plats? Svara lite snabbt, f|r planeringens skull. Jag skulle ocks} vilja h}lla en plats i Sparren f|r att rapportera om m|tet, men det skulle ju vara ett m|te i Aros ox}. Kan n}gon med v{lv{ssad penna l{gga en rapport d{rifr}n i min e-postl}da under onsdag f|rmiddag? (Allts} om tidigare datum g{ller.) H{lsningar Tora From nordmark-request Mon Oct 2 10:01:47 1995 Return-Path: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se (mailgate.ericsson.se [130.100.2.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA17731 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 10:01:25 +0100 From: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from eds05.ericsson.se (eds05.ericsson.se [136.225.9.2]) by mailgate.ericsson.se (8.6.11/1.0) with ESMTP id KAA09887 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 10:01:21 +0100 Received: from pc-mail.ericsson.se by edt.ericsson.se (PMDF V4.3-13 #7344) id <01HVYLK08RG08YBH32@edt.ericsson.se>; Mon, 02 Oct 1995 10:00:04 +0100 Date: Mon, 02 Oct 1995 10:01 +0100 Subject: RE: BOD??? To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Message-id: <01HVYLK09KDU8YBH32@edt.ericsson.se> X-Envelope-to: nordmark@ludd.luth.se MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Status: OR > Var h{lsade allt gott folk. Vem vet mer om BODs ant}gande deras dag i=20= Holmrike > p} onsdag?Tid? Plats? Svara lite snabbt, f|r planeringens skull. Tid: 19.00 Plats: Kvarterslokalen hos Harabanar (Granskogsv=E4gen 50 (?)) Buss 541 fr=E5n V=E4llingby till h=E5llplats Viadukten. /Gilliam B. From nordmark-request Mon Oct 2 15:27:54 1995 Return-Path: mjl@Rational.COM Received: from rational2.rational.com (rational2.rational.com [130.213.1.3]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA01168 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:27:52 +0100 Received: from goofy.rational.com (goofy.rational.com [89.30.4.23]) by rational2.rational.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA25625 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 07:27:49 -0700 Received: from hawk.rational.com (hawk.rational.com [89.30.2.170]) by goofy.rational.com (8.6.9/igor-1.0-wwong) with ESMTP id HAA13645 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 07:27:47 -0700 Received: from keystone (keystone [89.64.2.112]) by hawk.rational.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA06358 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 07:27:46 -0700 From: Matthew Larsen Received: (from mjl@localhost) by keystone (8.6.9/) id HAA09065 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 07:27:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 07:27:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199510021427.HAA09065@keystone> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: BOD??? Content-Length: 222 Status: OR The meeting in Aros will be Tuesday at 19:00, in Cathedral Skolan (sp? the place where meetings and dance practice usually happen). All are welcome! Come and let the Board know what you think! Geoffrey mjl@rational.com From nordmark-request Tue Oct 3 00:02:42 1995 Return-Path: xordph@ludd.luth.se Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id AAA10352 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 00:02:41 +0100 From: "L. J|rgen \hman" Received: (xordph@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id AAA18617 for nordmark; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 00:02:32 +0100 Message-Id: <199510022302.AAA18617@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Idag fick jag min sparre... To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 00:02:32 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 417 Status: OR Hej hopp d{r ute ! Idag fick jag min sparre, b{ttre sent {n aldrig. :-/ Den var postst{mplad 1/10. Det verkar som om kungliga snigelpost verket har slagit nytt rekord eller s} kom inte tidningarna i l}dan f|rra l|rdagen som Tora sa att dom hade gjort. Jag set det som lite deppigt att man f}r tidningen en dag efter manusstoppet till n{sta nummer, hoppas n{sta nummer kommmer fram fortare. /Styrbj|rn, l{sande. From nordmark-request Tue Oct 3 11:28:51 1995 Return-Path: <@goliat.dc.luth.se:leeu@celsiustech.se> Received: from goliat.dc.luth.se (goliat.dc.luth.se [130.240.12.20]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA01154 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:28:50 +0100 Received: from unauthenticated@world.celsiustech.se by goliat.dc.luth.se with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.2.8-NS) id AA10424; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 08:46:28 +0100 Received: (from leeu@localhost) by world.celsiustech.se (8.6.12/8.6.10) id IAA20339 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 08:45:42 +0100 From: Leif Euren Message-Id: <199510030745.IAA20339@world.celsiustech.se> Subject: Re: Idag fick jag min sparre... To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se (Nordmark Mailing List) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 08:45:41 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 722 Status: OR Styrbj|rn skrev: > Idag fick jag min sparre, b{ttre sent {n aldrig. :-/ > > Den var postst{mplad 1/10. > > Det verkar som om kungliga snigelpost verket har slagit nytt rekord > eller s} kom inte tidningarna i l}dan f|rra l|rdagen som Tora sa > att dom hade gjort. Det {r klart att Tora ljuger! Precis som Heloise lj|g i januari. Inte kan v{l postverket vara s} sl|a. [r Sparren st{mplad 1/10, s} {r den lagd p} l}dan dagen innan, det har kung Timoch och seneschal Maire slagit fast! Obs: IRONI Obs: IRONI Obs: IRONI Obs: IRONI Obs: IRONI Obs: IRONI Ovanst}ende drapa {r inte alls riktad mot Tora (eller Heloise), utan }t helt andra h}llet. Detta sagt f|r att ingen ska tro att jag klankar p} Tora. /Peder From nordmark-request Tue Oct 3 11:35:52 1995 Return-Path: xordph@ludd.luth.se Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA01851 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:35:51 +0100 From: "L. J|rgen \hman" Received: (xordph@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id LAA07096 for nordmark; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:35:42 +0100 Message-Id: <199510031035.LAA07096@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Re: Idag fick jag min sparre... To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:35:41 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199510030745.IAA20339@world.celsiustech.se> from "Leif Euren" at Oct 3, 95 08:45:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 819 Status: OR > > Styrbj|rn skrev: > > Idag fick jag min sparre, b{ttre sent {n aldrig. :-/ > > > > Den var postst{mplad 1/10. > > > > Det verkar som om kungliga snigelpost verket har slagit nytt rekord > > eller s} kom inte tidningarna i l}dan f|rra l|rdagen som Tora sa > > att dom hade gjort. > > Det {r klart att Tora ljuger! Precis som Heloise lj|g i januari. > Inte kan v{l postverket vara s} sl|a. [r Sparren st{mplad 1/10, s} {r > den lagd p} l}dan dagen innan, det har kung Timoch och seneschal Maire > slagit fast! > * vrider sig av skratt * > > Obs: IRONI Obs: IRONI Obs: IRONI Obs: IRONI Obs: IRONI Obs: IRONI > > Ovanst}ende drapa {r inte alls riktad mot Tora (eller Heloise), utan > }t helt andra h}llet. Detta sagt f|r att ingen ska tro att jag > klankar p} Tora. > > > /Peder > /Styrbj|rn, road. From nordmark-request Tue Oct 3 11:49:19 1995 Return-Path: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se (mailgate.ericsson.se [130.100.2.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA02612 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:49:18 +0100 From: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from edt02.ericsson.se (edt02.ericsson.se [136.225.9.4]) by mailgate.ericsson.se (8.6.11/1.0) with ESMTP id LAA27388 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:49:15 +0100 Received: from pc-mail.ericsson.se by edt.ericsson.se (PMDF V4.3-13 #7344) id <01HW03M86N8G8YBG9V@edt.ericsson.se>; Tue, 03 Oct 1995 11:48:02 +0100 Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 11:49 +0100 Subject: Re: Idag fick jag min sparre... To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Message-id: <01HW03M876IQ8YBG9V@edt.ericsson.se> X-Envelope-to: nordmark@ludd.luth.se MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Status: OR > Styrbj|rn skrev: > > Idag fick jag min sparre, b{ttre sent {n aldrig. :-/ > > > > Den var postst{mplad 1/10. > > > > Det verkar som om kungliga snigelpost verket har slagit nytt rekord > > eller s} kom inte tidningarna i l}dan f|rra l|rdagen som Tora sa > > att dom hade gjort. > > Det {r klart att Tora ljuger! Precis som Heloise lj|g i januari. > Inte kan v{l postverket vara s} sl|a. [r Sparren st{mplad 1/10, s} {r= > den lagd p} l}dan dagen innan, det har kung Timoch och seneschal Maire= > slagit fast! Nu var det faktiskt s=E5 att det var en bunt sparrar som hade blivit=20 f=F6rbisedda och postades i S=F6ndags 1/10. De flesta skall dock ha g=E5= tt ut i=20 tid. Det =E4r inte Toras fel, eftersom det inte =E4r hon som distribuera= r dom. S=E5 nu vet ni det. /Gilliam B. From nordmark-request Tue Oct 3 11:54:26 1995 Return-Path: xordph@ludd.luth.se Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA02812 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:54:25 +0100 From: "L. J|rgen \hman" Received: (xordph@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id LAA07767 for nordmark; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:54:14 +0100 Message-Id: <199510031054.LAA07767@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Re: Idag fick jag min sparre... To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 11:54:09 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <01HW03M876IQ8YBG9V@edt.ericsson.se> from "anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se" at Oct 3, 95 11:49:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 980 Status: OR > > > > > Styrbj|rn skrev: > > > Idag fick jag min sparre, b{ttre sent {n aldrig. :-/ > > > > > > Den var postst{mplad 1/10. > > > > > > Det verkar som om kungliga snigelpost verket har slagit nytt rekord > > > eller s} kom inte tidningarna i l}dan f|rra l|rdagen som Tora sa > > > att dom hade gjort. > > > > Det {r klart att Tora ljuger! Precis som Heloise lj|g i januari. > > Inte kan v{l postverket vara s} sl|a. [r Sparren st{mplad 1/10, s} {r= > > > den lagd p} l}dan dagen innan, det har kung Timoch och seneschal Maire= > > > slagit fast! > > Nu var det faktiskt s=E5 att det var en bunt sparrar som hade blivit=20 > f=F6rbisedda och postades i S=F6ndags 1/10. De flesta skall dock ha g=E5= > tt ut i=20 > tid. Det =E4r inte Toras fel, eftersom det inte =E4r hon som distribuera= > r dom. > > S=E5 nu vet ni det. > > /Gilliam B. > Det var det jag misst{nkte, men jag ville veta. Tack f|r informationen. Hoppas det g}r b{ttre n{sta g}ng. /Styrbj|rn, upplyst. From nordmark-request Wed Oct 4 08:16:01 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA20107 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:16:00 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id IAA20241; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:22:51 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: leeu@celsiustech.se Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Re: Idag fick jag min sparre... Date: 04 Oct 1995 08:14:49 GMT Message-Id: <1399054301.153970099@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Nej det f}r jag verkligen hoppas, eftersom jag l{mnade den till trycket den 10/9 och d{rmed avsade mig min del i ansvaret. Jag b|r i sammanhanget l{gga till att ordinarie distribut|ren l}g p} operationsbordet under distributionsdagen (eller }tminstonde p} uppvaket) s} om det blivit sent den h{r g}ngen kan ni inte vara f|r h}rda mot henne heller. f.|. ang}ende disribution, se sid 2. Tora From nordmark-request Wed Oct 4 08:15:58 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA20104; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:15:57 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id IAA20203; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:22:49 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: xordph@ludd.luth.se Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Idag fick jag min sparre... Date: 04 Oct 1995 08:11:42 GMT Message-Id: <1399054301.153970073@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Jag distribuerar inte sparren, jag layoutar den, l{s p} sid 2. Jag l{mnade den till tryck den 10/9. Tora From nordmark-request Wed Oct 4 09:15:41 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA20746 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:15:40 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id JAA16295; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:22:33 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: deadline Date: 04 Oct 1995 08:25:23 GMT Message-Id: <61406.154042264@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hej. Deadline till Silversparren {r alltid den 1:a (oavsett veckodag, det g}r att maila p} s|ndagar ox}). Det inneb{r inte att allt material m}ste komma den 1:a, den 28:e g}r ox} bra, eller den 15:e osv. Nu r}kade det bli s} att jag var bortrest i helgen och inte kunde ta itu med den, men normalt g|r jag det samma dag som manusstopp. Ni som var sena den h{r g}ngen har allts} tur, men r{kna inte med det. Dessutom, om jag inte hinner b|rja samma dag, s} g|r jag en sidplanering med anledning av m{ngden inkommet material och det sprack nu och jag har tenta den 21:a, s} det k{nns lite stressigt. Jag ber allts} om en sk{rpning. Tack p} f|rhand, Tora From nordmark-request Wed Oct 4 09:20:05 1995 Return-Path: xordph@ludd.luth.se Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA20826 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:20:04 +0100 From: "L. J|rgen \hman" Received: (xordph@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id JAA15214 for nordmark; Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:19:56 +0100 Message-Id: <199510040819.JAA15214@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Re: Idag fick jag min sparre... To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 09:19:55 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <1399054301.153970073@ssco.se> from "Anna Frimodig" at Oct 4, 95 08:11:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 390 Status: OR > > Jag distribuerar inte sparren, jag layoutar den, l{s p} sid 2. Jag l{mnade den > till tryck den 10/9. > Tora > Klart jag vet det, har jag sagt att det {r du som g|r det ? Men det var du som sa att den gick p} l}dan den 23/9 men det verkade inte som om min tidning och vissa andras ocks} f|r den delen hade gjort det, s} jag undrade bara vad som hade h{nt. /Styrbj|rn, f|rklarande. From nordmark-request Thu Oct 5 15:31:43 1995 Return-Path: Jonas.Nywall@adb.ds.sll.se Received: from gate1.ks.se (gate1.ks.se [193.12.146.100]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA16790 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 15:31:41 +0100 From: Jonas.Nywall@adb.ds.sll.se Received: by gate1.ks.se id AA12943 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 5 Oct 1995 15:30:56 +0100 Received: from ming.ds.sll.se(159.38.50.119) by gate1.ks.se via smap (V1.3) id sma012936; Thu Oct 5 15:30:41 1995 Received: from by ming.ds.sll.se with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA00945; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 15:32:44 +0100 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 95 15:31:49 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Martensfest och universitet 10-12 november AS XXX (1995) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Message text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: OR Mertensfest och universitet 10-12 november AS XXX (1995) Under tre dagar anordnas universitet och gdstabud i fagra Torsheim. Evenemanget dger rum pe Rvnneholmsgerden, Nordlindsvdg 84, Malmv. Universitetet bester dn se ldnge av fyra fvreldsningar: Herr Eric Elstene-Ridderlighet Herr Ragnvald Jvransson Ek-Runor och runrader Sven Rdvhjdrta-Pilbegar Lord Claudwick-Mjvdtillverkning Alla som dr intresserade att delta som ldrare eller vnskar ndrmare upplysningar, ta kontakt med Suain Ingulfson (Mikael Thuvesholmen) 040-927590, mikael@maths.lth.se. Vvernattning: Gerden vppnar fredagen den 10 november kl 17.30 och stdnger svndagen den 12 november kl 13. Vvernattning och dusch pe skola inom gengavstend. Ta med liggunderlag och sovsdck. Anmdlan gvrs pe postgiro 33 16 49-4, SKA-Torsheim, senast den 13 oktober. Ange pe meddelandedelen vad anmdlan avser. Antalet platser till= gdstabudet dr begrdnsat till 90 personer. Den 91:a anmdlda personen kommer tyvdrr EJ att beredas plats. De som inte fer plats meddelas brevledes och eterbetalning sker via postgiro. Anmdlan till gdstabudet kan EJ gvras pe plats. Anmdlningsavgift 80kr Gdstabud 90kr Frukost 15kr/st Lunch 30kr/st Vvernattning 30kr/person och natt Meltider: Frukost lvrdag och svndag, lunch lvrdag. Pe gdstabudet lvrdag kvdll serveras fem mindre rdtter, en varmrdtt och konfekt. Ta med egen matservis och dryck (Gerden dr fuktig dvs vl och vin dr tilletet; skolan= ddr du vvernattar dr torr). Anmdl om du dr allergiker eller vegetarian. Bardtdvling: Under gdstabudet utkdmpas som brukligt bardkampen om det Gyllene dgget. Anmdlan gvres till gdstabudets hdrold pe plats. Autokrater: Magnhild Olofsdotter och Lage Gvtstavsson(Ann-Marie Nilsson och Patric Andersson, Balladgatan 47, 215 71 Malmv, 040-191568) From nordmark-request Tue Oct 10 16:05:43 1995 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:BI93AJ75@lthvov.vsek.lth.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA06674 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:05:42 +0100 Received: from lthvov.vsek.lth.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA20501; Tue, 10 Oct 95 16:08:29 +0100 Received: from LTHVOV/SpoolDir by lthvov.vsek.lth.se (Mercury 1.20); 10 Oct 95 16:09:30 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by LTHVOV (Mercury 1.20); 10 Oct 95 16:09:20 +0100 From: "ANDERS JOHANSSON" Organization: School of Civil Eng.,Univ. of Lund To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:09:19 GMT +0100 Subject: benn}lar Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <3131A502AAE@lthvov.vsek.lth.se> Status: OR Hej alla! Jag skulle vilja ha hj{lp med att finna n}gon som tillverkar/s{ljer syn}lar av ben eller horn. En v{n till mig k|pte ett par n}lar av n}gon p} Gotland (Styringheimare?) - "en glad tjej som k|rde Gr|na Draken ibland" enligt beskrivningen. Troligen var n}larna av hjorthorn. Vem passar in p} detta? Har n}gon adress / tel / E-mail till henne? Finns det n}gon annan som har s}dana n}lar till salu? Tacksam f|r svar {r Anders Johansson - av somliga kallad Bard... From nordmark-request Wed Oct 11 08:48:20 1995 Return-Path: xordph@ludd.luth.se Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA20983 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:48:19 +0100 From: "L. J|rgen \hman" Received: (xordph@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id IAA12681 for nordmark; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:48:06 +0100 Message-Id: <199510110748.IAA12681@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Census ? To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:48:06 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 136 Status: OR Hej p} er alla ! [r det fler {n jag som v{ntar p} sin cencus ? Vem {r det som {r ansvarig f|r att skicka ut den ? /Styrbj|rn, less. From nordmark-request Wed Oct 11 09:15:56 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA21199 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:15:55 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id JAA01009; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:22:54 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: SCA www Date: 11 Oct 1995 08:21:14 GMT Message-Id: <65502.35212135@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR }terigen skriver Svenska Dagbladet om internet och dess sidor. I dag handlade det om svenska storf|retags hemsidor. Bland annat kunde man l{sa att SCA har en hemsida, men det fanns ingen adress angiven. Den som d} startar sin Webcrawler och skriver in SCA f|r att ta sig en till l{r bli f|rv}nad. Det f|rsta man f}r upp {r n{mligen SCA - The Society for Creative Anachronism :---) (= ny smiley med l}ng n{sa). Hi Hi, Tora From nordmark-request Wed Oct 11 10:00:36 1995 Return-Path: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se (mailgate.ericsson.se [130.100.2.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA21623 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:00:31 +0100 From: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from edt02.ericsson.se (edt02.ericsson.se [136.225.9.4]) by mailgate.ericsson.se (8.6.11/1.0) with ESMTP id KAA01429 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:00:23 +0100 Received: from pc-mail.ericsson.se by edt.ericsson.se (PMDF V4.3-13 #7344) id <01HWB65S9G5S8YDV2A@edt.ericsson.se>; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:59:00 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:00 +0100 Subject: RE: Census ? To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Message-id: <01HWB65SASDU8YDV2A@edt.ericsson.se> X-Envelope-to: nordmark@ludd.luth.se MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Status: OR Hej sj=E4lv. > Hej p} er alla ! > > [r det fler {n jag som v{ntar p} sin cencus ? You bet!!! Jag har inte sett r=F6ken av den :( > Vem {r det som {r ansvarig f|r att skicka ut den ? Jag tror att det =E4r Nenne som ska fixa det. /Gilliam, ocks=E5 less From nordmark-request Wed Oct 11 12:49:20 1995 Return-Path: jkaksonen@unda.fi Received: from unda.fi (unda.fi [193.64.23.5]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA24033 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:49:18 +0100 Received: from titan.unda.fi by unda.fi (5.65c/94.2.11-MAI) id AA25940; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:52:12 +0200 Received: from nipsu.unda.fi by titan.unda.fi (4.1/MAI-94.2.12) id AA10039; Wed, 11 Oct 95 13:49:12 +0200 Received: by nipsu.unda.fi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA00721; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:48:43 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:48:43 +0200 From: jkaksonen@unda.fi (Jokke Kaksonen) Message-Id: <199510111148.NAA00721@nipsu.unda.fi> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Aarnimetsa baronial investiture X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: OR To all whom it might consern. Today is the last day to report to the autocrat about your partisipation, in order to get in with the cheaper site fee. The absolutely last day to reserve a place is on the 17th this month. Celestinus ************************************************************************** The investiture of Aarnimetsas baron Greetings people of the Known World The barony of Aarnimetsa invites all who are interested to partisipate in the investiture of lord Celestinus mac Criomhthainn as Aarnimetsas baron, on the 21 st of October. The event will take place at Puustelli workvillage which is located near the mundane town of Jyvaskyla (the 'a' letters should have dots on them), known as the village of Huuhkasalo in Aarnimetsa. The site opens on friday the 20th at 19.00 and closes on sunday the 22nd at 16.00. The main events will be on saturday, starting with a champion tourney at 11.00 and then continuing with courts and a feast into the night. There will also be an arts & science competition so feel free to bring items for it. The site is wet. Remember to bring your own sleeping bags and shoes for indoor use. Site fee for the event is 50 FIM, and the feast fee, which includes evening snack, breakfast, lunch and the feast is 110 FIM. There will be a bus transportation available from Helsinki on friday the 20th, leaving at 18.00 and it will leave the site at 12.00 on the 22nd to return to Helsinki at 17.00. The fee for the roundtrip is 120 FIM for travellers from Helsinki. The deadline for reservations for the bus, is the 9th of October. There's room for only 50 persons, but if enough people want to go with it, we'll try and get a second one. Gentles arriving at other times can contact the railroad ticket office from the number +358-0-7071 or for bus tickets from the number +358-0-642744. The cost of an ordinary bus or train from Helsinki or Turku is something close to 150 FIM for a one way ticket. If you want transportation from the bus- or railroadstation of Jyvaskyla, please inform your arrival time, and we will arrange someone to pick you up. Written registrations to the autocrat considering the event should be sent before the 11th of October. after that, the site fee rises to 80 FIM. The 17th of October is the last possible day to register. The registration should include: Mundane name, SCA name, address, phone, and what you have paid (Site fee, food, bus), also inform if you have any food allergies and if you need transportation in Jyvaskyla. So here are the fees once more: Site fee until 11th October 50 FIM after that 80 FIM food 110 FIM bus (the one we have rented) 120 FIM Payment should be done to the Post account: SCA Aarnimetsa, PSP 800019-530651 foreigners can also pay at the site. There is no refund for cancellations after the 17th of October. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact the autocrat. Autocrat: Lady Hedwig Kettuin Hansa Isokoski Kuunsirppi 2 C 130 02210 Espoo Finland Tel +358-0-85 96 447 E-Mail: hansa.isokoski@orion.mailnet.fi If her email address isn't reachable, you can also send email to the address jkaksonen@unda.fi ***************************************************************************** From nordmark-request Wed Oct 11 13:46:34 1995 Return-Path: xordph@ludd.luth.se Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA24799 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:46:34 +0100 From: "L. J|rgen \hman" Received: (xordph@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id NAA20896 for nordmark; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:46:21 +0100 Message-Id: <199510111246.NAA20896@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Re: Census ? To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:46:20 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <951011.090132.14308@macpost.lu.se> from "Janna.Spanne@kansli.lth.se" at Oct 11, 95 09:01:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 369 Status: OR > > > >=C4r det fler =E4n jag som v=E4ntar p=E5 sin cencus ? > > Ja. Best=E4llde och betalade tv=E5 stycken i v=E5ras, men v=E4ntar=20 > fortfarande. Det finns tydligen en del svarta h=E5l h=E4r i=20 > Nordmark ocks=E5, inte bara hos centrala SCA. > > /Catrin > > Janna.Spanne@Kansli.LTH.se > Folk som tar p} sig saker borde fixa dom ocks}... /Styrbj|rn, less. From nordmark-request Mon Oct 16 14:45:46 1995 Return-Path: masc@sweden.hp.com Received: from hplb.hpl.hp.com (hplb.hpl.hp.com [15.255.59.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA21604 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:45:42 +0100 Received: from hpustoix.sweden.hp.com by hplb.hpl.hp.com; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:45:38 +0100 Received: by hpustoix.sweden.hp.com (1.38.193.5/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA07798; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:45:36 +0100 From: Marie Schroder Message-Id: <9510161345.AA07798@hpustoix.sweden.hp.com> Subject: Tillbaka! To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 14:45:36 MET X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.13i] Status: OR OK... hej allihopa! Efter operation och en maanads sjuskrivning kan jag nu meddela att jag aer tillbaka paa min e-mail adress....om det funkar vilket vi faar hoppas. Ha're Marie d'Alise-Saint-Reine From nordmark-request Mon Oct 16 20:17:24 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA27671 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 20:17:23 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id UAA06336; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 20:22:58 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: masc@sweden.hp.com Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Tillbaka! Date: 16 Oct 1995 19:57:32 GMT Message-Id: <131071.28222304@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Jor}, re funkar. Kolla om ni kan vinprova den 25/11 eller 9/12 p{ kv{llen. Vi h|rs. Kram, Anna From nordmark-request Mon Oct 16 20:31:50 1995 Return-Path: ingela@ludd.luth.se Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA27952 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 20:31:49 +0100 From: Ingela Sjömark Received: (ingela@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id UAA06703 for Nordmark; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 20:31:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199510161931.UAA06703@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Vinprovning? To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 20:31:43 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <131071.28222304@ssco.se> from "Anna Frimodig" at Oct 16, 95 07:57:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 232 Status: OR According to Anna Frimodig: > > Jor}, re funkar. > Kolla om ni kan vinprova den 25/11 eller 9/12 p{ kv{llen. Vi h|rs. Kram, Anna > {r det n}gonslags allm{n tillst{llning eftersom du skriver det p} NML-listan ? /Ingrid S|mmerska From nordmark-request Tue Oct 17 15:08:52 1995 Return-Path: mjl@Rational.COM Received: from rational2.rational.com (rational2.rational.com [130.213.1.3]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA13859 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 15:08:49 +0100 Received: from igor.rational.com (mailhost.rational.com [89.64.2.102]) by rational2.rational.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA09029 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:08:47 -0700 Received: from hawk.rational.com (hawk.rational.com [89.30.2.170]) by igor.rational.com (8.6.9/igor-1.0-wwong) with ESMTP id HAA23441 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:08:46 -0700 Received: from keystone (keystone [89.64.2.112]) by hawk.rational.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA01914 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:08:43 -0700 From: Matthew Larsen Received: (from mjl@localhost) by keystone (8.6.9/) id HAA11271 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:08:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:08:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199510171408.HAA11271@keystone> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Crown Tourney Event Report Content-Length: 2392 Status: OR Greeting from Geoffrey Mathias! This past weekend several Nordmarkers traveled to the far reaches of Drakenwald, to the Barony of Drei Eichen to see Crown Tourney. Although the journey was long, we reached the small town of Heimbach without difficulty. The next morning dawned fair and clear, and we left our lodgings and walked to the castle in the town, exchanging greetings with travelers from other parts of the Kingdom as we went. The banner of Drakenwald flew from the highest tower of the castle, proclaiming that the King and Queen were in residence. The tourney field lay in the upper courtyard of the castle, a small grassy area whose walls overlooked the river running through the town below. The tournament began with the contestants bringing forward their consorts and introducing them to their Majesties Michael and Melsusine. Nordmark was well represented by Sir Sven, Lord Johan and Lord Mathias. The tourney opened with a grand melee for all the fighters, and then progressed to single combats, each contestant fighting all others. Many shrewd blows were struck while the onlookers watched attentively, expressing their pleasure at the chivalry the fighters displayed. As the tourney progressed it became clear to all that one fighter outshown all the rest. This was Viscount Garick von Kopke, fighting for his lady Talitha. His strength and her inspiration were such that after all contestants had faced each other, he remained undefeated. However, there remained one other participant, Lord Thorstein (whose lady, Prydian, is well know to many of the people of Nordmark), who had lost only to Garick. These two then donned their helmets one final time and faced each other. Although Thorstein was swift and strong, Garick proved the stronger, and after two clean bouts, Garick and his lady declared prince and princess. After a short celebration the event continued. There was an arts display, which included items by each of the contestants in the tourney (as her majesty had requested) as well as works by others. Court was held, and among those honored by their Majesties were Lady Thora, who received a Panache and Sir Prothall, who received a Linquistring (sp?) for his services as Kingdom Marshall. The evening finished with an excellent feast cooked by Baron Helmut followed by general reveling in honor of the new Crown Prince and Princess. From nordmark-request Tue Oct 17 18:16:11 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA16763; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 18:16:09 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id SAA26096; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 18:23:14 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: ingela@ludd.luth.se Cc: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Vinprovning? Date: 17 Oct 1995 17:52:24 GMT Message-Id: <16379902.32914088@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Nej, sorry, jag gl|mde ta bort er andra i min iver att svara Marie. Det var bara till henne. Tora From nordmark-request Tue Oct 17 20:16:26 1995 Return-Path: rcole@informix.com Received: from gateway.informix.com (gateway.informix.com [192.216.240.3]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA18718 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 20:16:24 +0100 Received: from informix.com (infmx.informix.com) by gateway.informix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06072; Tue, 17 Oct 95 12:16:54 PDT Received: from atlas (atlas.informix.com) by informix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03715; Tue, 17 Oct 95 12:16:19 PDT Received: by atlas (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA02995; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 14:20:39 -0500 From: Rusty Cole Posted-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 14:20:38 CDT Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 14:20:39 -0500 Message-Id: <9510171920.AA02995@atlas> Subject: Gilliam To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se (nordmark) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 14:20:38 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR Sorry about this folks, but its the only way I have left.... Gilliam, I tried to email you today, and it bounced twice, please email me directly and let me know if you go my email. Thanks, Rusty rcole@informix.com From nordmark-request Fri Oct 20 01:51:39 1995 Return-Path: unicorn@csd.uu.se Received: from kobra.csd.uu.se (kobra.csd.uu.se [130.238.16.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA27097 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 01:51:39 +0100 Received: (from unicorn@localhost) by kobra.csd.uu.se (8.6.10/8.6.9) id BAA00916; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 01:51:38 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 01:51:38 +0100 From: Vicki Schalin Message-Id: <199510200051.BAA00916@kobra.csd.uu.se> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-reply-to: <199510171408.HAA11271@keystone> (message from Matthew Larsen on Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:08:41 -0700) Subject: Re: Crown Tourney Event Report Status: OR Sir Geoffrey, Thank You very much for your fine and interesting report!! I hope everyone (especially those who had travelled far) had a real good time! Good luck to our new King and Queen! /Deirdre (no money - no travel) From nordmark-request Fri Oct 20 02:13:45 1995 Return-Path: unicorn@csd.uu.se Received: from kobra.csd.uu.se (kobra.csd.uu.se [130.238.16.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id CAA27419 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 02:13:44 +0100 Received: (from unicorn@localhost) by kobra.csd.uu.se (8.6.10/8.6.9) id CAA01750; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 02:13:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 02:13:43 +0100 From: Vicki Schalin Message-Id: <199510200113.CAA01750@kobra.csd.uu.se> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: F|r n}gra veckor sen... Status: OR ..tr{ffade somliga av oss tv} personer fr}n BoD. Jag har t{nkt fr}ga er som kan allt om s}nt h{r vilka de tv} egentligen var. Jag vet att de presenterade sig (men jag har gl|mt vad de sa) och att de h|r till de nya i BoD och {r gamla i SCA. Men vad mer? Ber{tta nu vilka legender vi har m|tt! Ber{tta ocks} g{rna ni som vet vad som h{nder nu i v}ra b}da Nordmark. Vad g|r SCA och vad g|r konungariket f|r att om m|jligt l|sa v}ra problem? Sitter vi och v{ntar p} BoDs utslag? Vilken helg var/{r deras m|te? Vem bevakar vad som h{nder? Vem h}ller i bollen (och hur ser den ut?:-) ? Jag tycker det har varit alldeles f|r tyst f|r l{nge h{r, vi talar v{l {nd} fortfarande med varann?! Den som har information kan v{l dela med sig till oss andra. /Lady Deirdre From nordmark-request Fri Oct 20 14:08:26 1995 Return-Path: vader@csd.uu.se Received: from groucho.csd.uu.se (groucho.csd.uu.se [130.238.12.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA04323 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:08:26 +0100 From: vader@csd.uu.se Received: (from vader@localhost) by groucho.csd.uu.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA11482; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:08:22 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:08:22 +0100 Message-Id: <199510201308.OAA11482@groucho.csd.uu.se> To: unicorn@csd.uu.se CC: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-reply-to: <199510200113.CAA01750@kobra.csd.uu.se> (message from Vicki Schalin on Fri, 20 Oct 1995 02:13:43 +0100) Subject: Re: F|r n}gra veckor sen... Status: OR Jag tr{ffade de tv} BoDerskorna i Uppsala. Det var Lee Forgue (Eilis O'Bourne) och Carol O'Leary (Melisande de Belvoir). Vi hade ett trevligt och intressant samtal, som indikerade ett stort m}tt av f|rst}else fr}n deras sida. De beklagade djupt att Nordmark inte p} ett mycket tidigare stadium hade v{nt sig direkt till BoD. Det borde vi ha gjort redan n{r Maire f|rsta g}ngen v{grade medverka till v}r petition. Det f|rel}g knappast n}got tvekan om att BoD skulle ha l{xat upp b}de Maire och kung Timoch (och en del andra), bara {rendet hade hamnat p} deras bord genast. En annan intressant tanke som formulerades var att Maires agerande kan ha berott p} hennes respektive Sedalias personliga s{tt att uttrycka sig och kommunicera. Sedalia har en f|rm}ga att uttrycka det hon avser som ett f|rslag eller en rekommenda- tion, s} att det l}ter som en befallning. Maire {r milit{r och uppfattar det som order, vilka hon ska se till att f} }tlydda. Maire sj{lv har precis motsatt f|rm}ga: n{r hon ger en order l}ter det som en f|rsiktig rekommendation. Varp} hon blir arg f|r att man inte genast lyder. Inga beslut fattades givetvis vid det h{r m|tet, men mitt intryck var att vi kan v{nta oss n}gon form av "bud" fr}n BoD }tminstone till kungad|mets riksdag. F|r n{rvarande finns det ingen i Nordmark som har mandat fr}n folket att f|rhandla, utan de krav som fastst{lldes i Visby g{ller. Riksdagen har naturligtvis frihet att g|ra n}got annat. F|r |vrigt {r det mitt intryck att de flesta i Nordmark |nskar leka med b}da grupperna, med st|rre eller mindre lutning }t ena eller andra h}llet. Kungad|met ska ha gett ut en tidning, men den har jag av ok{nd anledning {nnu inte f}tt. Kungad|mets tidsplan st}r fast. Det som skjutits p} framtiden {r domedagsm|tet i SKA-Nordmark... William de Corbie From nordmark-request Fri Oct 20 15:02:21 1995 Return-Path: rcole@informix.com Received: from gateway.informix.com (gateway.informix.com [192.216.240.3]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA05199 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 15:02:19 +0100 Received: from informix.com (infmx.informix.com) by gateway.informix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05775; Fri, 20 Oct 95 07:02:42 PDT Received: from atlas (atlas.informix.com) by informix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17452; Fri, 20 Oct 95 07:02:06 PDT Received: by atlas (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA29031; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:06:28 -0500 From: Rusty Cole Posted-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 9:06:22 CDT Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:06:28 -0500 Message-Id: <9510201406.AA29031@atlas> Subject: Re: Crown Tourney Event Report To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se (nordmark) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 9:06:22 CDT In-Reply-To: <199510200051.BAA00916@kobra.csd.uu.se>; from "Vicki Schalin" at Oct 20, 95 1:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR Geoffrey, I should also note my thanks! Since I am in a kingdom far away from Drachenwald, it is very interesting to hear such reports. We do a similiar thing on the Calontir net. Thanks again, Hrolf Rustig aka Rusty > > Sir Geoffrey, > Thank You very much for your fine and interesting report!! I hope everyone > (especially those who had travelled far) had a real good time! > Good luck to our new King and Queen! > > /Deirdre (no money - no travel) > From nordmark-request Fri Oct 20 21:30:34 1995 Return-Path: Christer.Romson@abc.se Received: from suncd.abc.se (suncd.abc.se [192.36.170.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA10545 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 21:30:33 +0100 Received: from tor.abc.se by suncd.abc.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13070; Fri, 20 Oct 95 21:30:30 +0100 Received: by tor.abc.se (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28874; Fri, 20 Oct 1995 21:30:29 +0100 From: m9698@sparc2.abc.se (Christer Romson) To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Gamla byggnader Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 17:49:13 +0100 Reply-To: Christer.Romson@abc.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199509130921.LAA25839@mn3.swip.net> Lines: 18 Status: OR > Någon som vet var man kan få information om vanliga hus under medeltiden. Om jag letade efter en sån sak, så skulle jag gå till biblioteket och titta i relevanta delar av "Kulturhistoriskt lexikon för nordisk medeltid", "Dagligt liv i 1500-talets Sverige" och "Nordisk kultur". Dessutom kan de känna till något på Medeltidsmuseet eller Statens historiska museum i Stockholm. Medeltidsmuseet har ju en "byggnadshytta" som en del av den permanenta utställningen. Även om det inte står något i kataloger eller vid själva utställningen, så kan personalen veta mer. Historiska museet har t.o.m. en jourhavande arkivarie, som svarar på telefonfrågor från allmännhten om vad som finns i deras arkiv. Kulturhistoriskt lexikon och åtminstone vissa delar av Nordisk kultur finns på Stockholms stadsbiblioteks huvudbibliotek. Dagligt liv i 1500-talets Sverige finns på stadbibliotekets filial vid Medborgarplatsen, tror jag. /Lindorm From nordmark-request Sat Oct 21 11:18:20 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA18204 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:19 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id LAA03600; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:25:27 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: manusstopp igen Date: 21 Oct 1995 11:06:53 GMT Message-Id: <658558973.52260627@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR H} h} ja ja, vad tiden g}r! Om drygt en vecka {r det manusstopp till SIlversparrens decembernummer. Skriven en rad! Skriv den i tid! Annars f}r kr|nik|ren gr|na prickar... :-) Tora From nordmark-request Sat Oct 21 11:18:19 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA18199 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:17 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id LAA03595; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:25:25 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Om gamla byggnader Date: 21 Oct 1995 11:04:11 GMT Message-Id: <467193821.52257367@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Oj, jag {r fortfarande klant p} det h{r mediet :-(, jag skrev ett Re som kanske inte gick ut p} NMLen som avsett var. H{r {r i alla fall reprisen: Jag vet inte vems om st{llde fr}gan om byggnader f|rst, men h{r {r ett svar: Jag har jobbat i nio }r p} Medeltidsmuseet och bland annat l{st in mig d} vi hade specialutst{llning om Murm{starembetet. Jag svarar g{rna p} fr}gor. Vill du g} p} egen rundtur i Gamla stan rekomenderas Glases bok d{r det finns olika rundpromenader f|reslagna, och beskrivning av det man stannar framf|r. Som att ha sin guide i skriftform liksom. Det b|r finnas till salu b}de p} Medeltidsmuseet och Stadsmuseet. Skriv annars en rad med fr}gor! From nordmark-request Sat Oct 21 11:18:18 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA18200 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:18:17 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id LAA03572; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 11:25:21 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: Christer.Romson@abc.se Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Gamla byggnader Date: 21 Oct 1995 10:58:08 GMT Message-Id: <611315613.52257246@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hej Jag vet inte vem som st{llde fr}gan gr}n b|rjan,men jag har jobbat i nio }r p} Medeltidsmuseet och bland annat l{st in mig p} den specialutst{llning vi hade om Murm{stareembetet. Jag svarar g{rna p} fr}gor! Skriv en rad! Tora From nordmark-request Sat Oct 21 16:39:49 1995 Return-Path: kalix@ludd.luth.se Received: from mother.ludd.luth.se (mother.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.3]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA21247 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 16:39:48 +0100 From: "Gunnar \stlund" Received: (kalix@localhost) by mother.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA28927 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 16:39:36 +0100 Message-Id: <199510211539.QAA28927@mother.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Re: manusstopp igen To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 16:39:35 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <658558973.52260627@ssco.se> from "Anna Frimodig" at Oct 21, 95 11:06:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 297 Status: OR > > H} h} ja ja, vad tiden g}r! > Om drygt en vecka {r det manusstopp till SIlversparrens decembernummer. > Skriven en rad! Skriv den i tid! Annars f}r kr|nik|ren gr|na prickar... :-) > Tora > Hmmm! Decembernumret... D} kommer v{l Novembernumret snart, eller...? (; /Johan Knutsson, undrande. From nordmark-request Sun Oct 22 11:15:27 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA04517; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 11:15:26 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id LAA09875; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 11:22:36 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: kalix@ludd.luth.se Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Re: manusstopp igen Date: 22 Oct 1995 10:31:21 GMT Message-Id: <658558973.57309107@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR som f|rr: Fr}ga inte mig, fr}ga distribut|ren. Men jag tror att den fick frim{rken i torsdags... Tora From nordmark-request Sun Oct 22 18:15:32 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA08186 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 18:15:32 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id SAA15553; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 18:22:41 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: billig sammet Date: 22 Oct 1995 17:19:59 GMT Message-Id: <5623583.58824805@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hej Uppt{ckte av en slump att Ikea Barkarby har bommulssammet i tillf{lligt parti f7r 98:-/m. Det kan ev. g{lla andra Ikea ox}. F{rger: Mellanbl}, lila, klarr|d, gul och orange. S} l{nge lagret r{cker. Ack ack, min arma pl}nbok...:-) Tora From nordmark-request Mon Oct 23 02:53:17 1995 Return-Path: unicorn@csd.uu.se Received: from kobra.csd.uu.se (kobra.csd.uu.se [130.238.16.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id CAA15312 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 02:53:16 +0100 Received: (from unicorn@localhost) by kobra.csd.uu.se (8.6.10/8.6.9) id CAA09956; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 02:53:16 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 02:53:16 +0100 From: Vicki Schalin Message-Id: <199510230153.CAA09956@kobra.csd.uu.se> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-reply-to: (m9698@sparc2.abc.se) Subject: Re: Gamla byggnader Status: OR V{lkommen tillbaka till Prath|gen, Lindorm!! Hur permanent {r din adress? /Deirdre From nordmark-request Mon Oct 23 03:01:28 1995 Return-Path: unicorn@csd.uu.se Received: from kobra.csd.uu.se (kobra.csd.uu.se [130.238.16.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id DAA15355 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 03:01:28 +0100 Received: (from unicorn@localhost) by kobra.csd.uu.se (8.6.10/8.6.9) id DAA09999; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 03:01:27 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 03:01:27 +0100 From: Vicki Schalin Message-Id: <199510230201.DAA09999@kobra.csd.uu.se> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-reply-to: <467193821.52257367@ssco.se> (Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se) Subject: Re: Om gamla byggnader Status: OR Aprop} vandringar i Gamla stan s} skulle jag vilja rekommendera en karta att ha med sig. Den heter The Old Town Map, historical guide to Stockholm's old town. Den {r utgiven av Polar Front AB och Kartografen AB. Jag tror den finns till salu p} Stadsmuseet och Medeltidsmuseet. Orsaken att jag rekommenderar den {r att min Far var med i produktionen och d{rf|r vet jag att kartbiten {r v{lgjord. (Jag vet ocks} att texten var roligare och mer engagerad innan de andra fick kalla f|tter och gjorde om stora delar...) N}, i alla fall {r den bra f|r egna vandringar och uppt{ckter i Gamla stan. /Deirdre (Vicki Schalin) From nordmark-request Mon Oct 23 09:40:52 1995 Return-Path: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Received: from mn3.swip.net (mn3.swip.net [192.71.180.33]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA17987 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 09:40:52 +0100 From: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Received: by mn3.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/2.01) id JAA06595; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 09:38:14 +0100 Message-ID: <199510230838.JAA06595@mn3.swip.net> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 9:00:12 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Gamla byggnader... MIME-version: 1.0 (Created by TFS) Content-Type: text/plain ; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway V210U0469M Status: OR hm.. gick inte att g=F6ra reply... .. Det var jag som st=E4llde fr=E5gan strax innan v=E5rtmailsystem=20= d=F6k, s=E5=20 har n=E5gon svarat typ veckan efter s=E5 finns de svaren n=E5gonstans ute i= =20 c-rymden. Jag har noterat vilka som har kommit med bra svar, och =E5terkommer lite=20 senare! Tackar =E4ven f=F6r visat intresse! /Archie From nordmark-request Tue Oct 24 12:35:53 1995 Return-Path: vader@csd.uu.se Received: from groucho.csd.uu.se (groucho.csd.uu.se [130.238.12.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA20457 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 12:35:52 +0100 From: vader@csd.uu.se Received: (from vader@localhost) by groucho.csd.uu.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id MAA08760; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 12:35:51 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 12:35:51 +0100 Message-Id: <199510241135.MAA08760@groucho.csd.uu.se> To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: [ALBAN@delphi.com: Re: Board meeting?] Status: OR Detta {r knyckt fr}n reformlistan, vidarebefordras h{r f|r allm{n k{nnedom: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 21:11:07 -0400 (EDT) From: ALBAN@delphi.com Subject: Re: Board meeting? To: sca-reform@world.std.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: sca-reform@world.std.com Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 5251 i'll keep it brief. and from memory, too; forgot a blasted pen to take notes with. usual reports, grooup status changes, warrants, etc. of possible interest to the grand council and sca-reform: new branch? board? financial policies were instituted. (i couldn't be sure if they were talking about branch financial policies instituted by the board, or new board financial policies required to be complied with by branches, or what - but there are new financial policies.) there's a new g&pd, that requires the board to give 60 days advance notice of any policy that impacts on kingdom administration, for comments and such.. there was an attempt to institute a new procedure that, in essence, suspended (not revoked, but suspended) a member's, er, membership for the duration of any lawsuit brought by that member against the sca, inc. (apparently, there have been several, usually by insurance companies requiring the policy holder him/herself to "sue" the sca, whether or not the member wants to). i have no idea why such suspension was thought to be a good idea, and the proposer never made himself clear on such a point. after several comments from the floor, all of which against the idea, the proposal was dropped. (i still don't know why he suggested it....) there were politics brought in, regarding the trimarian crown refusing to recognize the county of the immediately preceding crown; the crown refusing the recognition was told this was a no-no. (actually, this is more the iac's bailiwick.) northshield is going principality. so is nordmark. two board members flew over there for a 10-day visit, to meet with as many people as they could on as many different sides as they could; the visit apparently did a hell of a lot to soothe things, and was seen to be a very real attempt by the board to actually *do* something. i believe, but could be wrong, that it'll be a crown principality. in regard to nordmark's request to be allowed to pick the method by which they pick a coronet/crown, the board said it is willing to accept requests for variances from the usual policies, but that is as far as the board is willing to go: they'll listen, but won't accept or reject anything without further internal discussion. (at least, I _think_ nordmark's going principality. it was a loooong day.) non-member surcharge: long discussion. very long. actually, somewhat productive too. background: the board has decided that it is within their legal and fiduciary responsibilities to have cash reserves built up equivalent to six-months operating expenses. this is what nearly every other "proper" for-tax and tax-exempt and non-for-profit does, and should do. (although some groups build up a year's worth; six months was seen as being the bare minimum for what a responsible group should do.) 6 months' reserve is roughly equal to $450,000. the sca, inc's present cash reserve is on the order of $50,000? maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less, but it's within that order of magnitude. the board feels this is is not enough; that they have a positive legal and fiduciary duty to bring up the cash reserves to where it should be. this means that the corporation needs, over and above yearly annual operating expenses, another $400,000 soon-ish. the problem is, of course, how to raise it. the board realized that the non-member surcharge was loathed, reviled, and relegated to the deepest part of hell by a lot of people. the board also reaalized that a lot of people were for it. the board, thirdly, realized that those who hated the idea had not come up with a good (read: practical idea that would raise sufficient cash within a normal lifetime) alternative. (it was about here that, having gone through the explanation of why the n.m.s. was insituted, of why it was still around, of why cash reserves were a good idea, and so forth, the borad took a straw poll of the audience, which held a large number of vehemently anti-n.m.s. people, including me. the question was, given the above reasons for instituting the n.m.s., should it be continued in some form? i believe there were maybe 3 or 4 people who thought it shouldn't be continued; the vast majority, which included me, "voted" for continuation. a lot of us hate, loathe, and despise the n.m.s. - but we realized that it was a necessary evil, based more on . . . well, it's a necessary evil). so...where was I? the non-member surcharge the board admitted was supposed to be "temporary". the corporation, apparently with support, feels it needs to build up cash reserves. therefore, and i hope i am wording this correctly, the non-member surcharge will be discontinued june 30th, 1996 (i believe that's the date), if, and only if, another, better idea for raising money can be suggested and implemented. said idea can be from anyone, and the board sincerely hopes that the participants of the sca will come up with a lot of good ideas, so that the loathed n.m.s. can be replaced. and that's about all, for now, that concerns the reform movement. terras? jaelle? anyhone else have any comments? (oh, the board did mention that board meeting reports are available by subscription; so if you want the straight hoo-ha, you can get it from the horse's mouth.) alban Author: ALBAN@delphi.com From nordmark-request Tue Oct 24 17:10:28 1995 Return-Path: bubba@ludd.luth.se Received: from jason.ludd.luth.se (jason.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.49]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA24539 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 17:10:27 +0100 From: "U.J|rgen \hman" Received: (bubba@localhost) by jason.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id RAA28128 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 17:16:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199510241616.RAA28128@jason.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Ett steg p} v{g. To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se (sca) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 17:16:23 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 730 Status: OR Det var ju iaf ett steg i r{tt riktning om BoD nu menar att Nordmark ska bli Furstend|me. De sa ju ocks} att de var villiga att lyssna p} oss iaf. Det verkar som om det var Maire som var den st|rsta proppen i dramat. Jag har ett f|rslag till alla i Nordmark. Eftersom jag vill att Nordmark ska vara en grupp (inte tv}) s} vad s{gs om 1. Kungariket Nordmark skrinl{ggs ytterligare ett tag. 2. Nordmark blir Furstend|me. 3. Som furstend|me diskuterar vi med BoD direkt... detta med h{nsyn till tidigare erfarenheter av Kungar och Drotsar. 4. Om diskussionerna inte leder n}gonstans s} kan vi fundera p} ett kungarike igen. eller n}got s}dant. Hej hopp, det var mina 2 cents...ummm... jag menar ca 15 |re. ;-) / Ulf Mj|dtunga From nordmark-request Tue Oct 24 19:03:57 1995 Return-Path: a95jonso@ikm.his.se Received: from oden (oden.ikm.his.se [193.10.178.201]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA26193 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 19:03:56 +0100 Received: from [193.10.178.210] by oden via SMTP (931110.SGI/ikm.his.se-941207) for nordmark@ludd.luth.se id AA10300; Tue, 24 Oct 95 19:03:06 -0100 X-Sender: a95jonso@mhost.ikm.his.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 19:08:56 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: a95jonso@ikm.his.se (Jonas Soderqvist) Subject: Hej! Status: OR Hej alla Nordmarkare, rebeller, utbrytare, bortbytingar och andra som l=E4se= r NML. Detta =E4r Ulvbergets nye drots, Lord Aodhan macNiall som =E4ntligen f= =E5tt tillg=E5ng till detta fantastiska fenomen som kallas E-mail (eller E-post om man vill). Om n=E5gon vill mig n=E5got s=E5 =E4r det bara att skriva till mi= n address (a95jonso@ikm.his.se) eller skriva vanliga brev eller vad som helst, bara alla =E4r sn=E4lla. Ulf Mj=F6dtungas f=F6rslag var inte s=E5 pjokigt, ju fler som bara vill leka= och strunta i den pinsamma politiken, desto b=E4ttre!!! =46=F6r ett positivt, glatt och lekfullt Nordmark... Aodhan From nordmark-request Tue Oct 24 22:15:29 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id WAA28592 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 22:15:28 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id WAA10112; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 22:22:38 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: a95jonso@ikm.his.se Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Hej! Date: 24 Oct 1995 21:19:54 GMT Message-Id: <65535.70083958@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Var h{lsad till n{tet och till din post. Som {gare av en sten}lderssencus och varande kr|nik|r |nskar jag mig ett returbrev med ditt fulla namn (1900-tal + ?-tal) och adress och tel, s} blir det r{tt i n{sta nummer av Sparren. I tidningens och dr|mmens tj{nst. Tora (e-post: anna_frimodig@ssco.se) From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 00:17:13 1995 Return-Path: vader@csd.uu.se Received: from groucho.csd.uu.se (groucho.csd.uu.se [130.238.12.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id AAA01493; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 00:17:12 +0100 From: vader@csd.uu.se Received: (from vader@localhost) by groucho.csd.uu.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id AAA17214; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 00:17:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 00:17:12 +0100 Message-Id: <199510242317.AAA17214@groucho.csd.uu.se> To: bubba@ludd.luth.se CC: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-reply-to: <199510241616.RAA28128@jason.ludd.luth.se> (bubba@ludd.luth.se) Subject: Re: Ett steg p} v{g. Status: OR Spontan reaktion p} Ulf Mj|dtungas ideer {r att f|r min del ser jag inga f|rdelar med att "pl}stra" ihop SCA och Nordmark. Efter 10 }r i SCA {r jag hj{rtligt tr|tt p} kulturellt hj{rnd|da amerikaner som Bara Inte Fattar att det finns en hel v{rld utanf|r USA d{r man har helt andra traditioner. Jag trodde att vi gick med i en medeltidsf|rening, men konstaterar att det var fel -- SCA {r en idrottsf|rening. Hoppl|st och ohj{lpligt fast i ett system d{r folk med rottingsv{rd av n}gon anledning {r mer v{rda {n alla andra. Jag {r ocks} hj{rtligt tr|tt p} de svenskar som faktiskt verkar f|redra Amerika framf|r Sverige, kanske de lyckats missa hela den svenska kulturen genom taskiga uppv{xtf|rh}llanden i St}ckh}lm, en annan del av v{rlden som ju lider av liknande komplex typ att man tror sig vara v{rldens centrum? Vad ska vi med SCA till? Varf|r i hela fridens namn ska vi leka medeltid p} deras villkor? Om n}got vill g|ra det st}r det denne fritt, men jag ser f|r min del tusenfalt hellre att vi nu kapar alla lydnadsf|rh}llanden till Disneyworld och b|rjar leka medeltid i st{llet f|r att vara n}n sorts mindre filial till American Gladiators! William de Corbie /spontan/ From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 09:23:56 1995 Return-Path: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Received: from mn3.swip.net (mn3.swip.net [192.71.180.33]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA06203 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 09:23:55 +0100 From: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Received: by mn3.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/2.01) id JAA15900; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 09:21:17 +0100 Message-ID: <199510250821.JAA15900@mn3.swip.net> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 9:00:09 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Nordmarks Konungarike X-Mailer: TFS Gateway V210U0469M Status: OR Vi i Agaria har haft lite diskussioner genom tiden om det här och har väl kommit att ställa oss i det läget att om det blir ett konungarike så stöder vi det, men vi kommer inte att gå med i ett SCA furstendöme. From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 11:19:00 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA07477 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:18:59 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id LAA25062; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:26:11 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: adresser i Sparren Date: 25 Oct 1995 10:58:15 GMT Message-Id: <2764365821.73043257@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hej igen. (Tjat tjat..) Nu skriver jagom Sparren igen. Hoppas det inte blir f|r tjatigt. Jag skulle }terigen vilja uppmana er som st}r med i Sparren, som grupp eller som enskild innehavare av n}got, att kommentera om ni |nskar st} kvar eller inte. Jag har valt policyn att alla som inte skriver till mig och |nskar bli bortplockade st}r kvar som SCA-grupp, blivade d.o. eller SCA-{mbetsman. Nu vet jag att det h{nder saker i Nordmark igen sedan Visby, s} h|r av er, om ni inte vill st} kvar i n{sta nummer! Tora From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 11:40:03 1995 Return-Path: marianne.demaret@ped.gu.se Received: from ped.gu.se (hands.ped.gu.se [130.241.100.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA07771 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:40:02 +0100 Message-Id: <199510251040.LAA07771@zed.ludd.luth.se> Received: from [130.241.106.4] (asp004.asp.gu.se) by ped.gu.se with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA219507565; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:39:25 +0100 X-Sender: pedmarid@ped.gu.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:41:26 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: marianne.demaret@ped.gu.se (Marianne Demaret) Subject: Gotviks Universitet Status: OR HEJ HOPP!! M=E4rkte till min f=F6rskr=E4ckelse att annonsen om v=E5rt vinterevenemang i Silversparren helt saknade datum. GOTVIKS UNIVERSITET =C4R F=D6RSTA HELGEN I DECEMBER, FREDAG 1/12 TILL S=D6ND= AG 3/12. Alla =E4r hj=E4rtligt v=E4lkomna, oavsett "politisk" =F6vertygelse. Vi= t=E4nker bara ha skoj samt f=F6rkovra oss i allsk=F6ns intressanta =E4mnen. Jag skall f=F6= rs=F6ka f=E5 en lista =F6ver f=F6redrag och sprida den h=E4r. H=E4lsningar Estridh (Som INTE h=E5ller i Universitetet i =E5r) ****************************************************** Marianne =C5sblom Demaret Avdelningen f=F6r spr=E5kpedagogik G=F6teborgs universitet Box 1010 S-431 26 M=D6LNDAL SWEDEN E-mail: marianne.demaret@ped.gu.se PHONE AT WORK: +46-31 773 24 42 =46AX: +46-31 773 23 80 HOME NUMBER: +46-31 30 46 99 ****************************************************** From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 11:52:58 1995 Return-Path: frithiof@akka.kemi.uu.se Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.kemi.uu.se [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA07948 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:52:57 +0100 Received: by akka.kemi.uu.se id AA11711 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for Nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:43:44 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:43:44 +0100 From: Sven Noren Message-Id: <199510251043.AA11711@akka.kemi.uu.se> To: marianne.demaret@ped.gu.se Subject: Re: Gotviks Universitet Cc: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Status: OR >GOTVIKS UNIVERSITET =C4R F=D6RSTA HELGEN I DECEMBER, FREDAG 1/12 TILL S=D6ND= >AG 3/12. D} kolliderar det med SKA-Nordmarks extra }rsm|te, som skall ta upp bland annat ett par viktiga stadge{ndringar. T{nkte bara jag skulle p}peka detta Frithiof, besserwisser From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 17:01:35 1995 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:kansli.lth-j.spanne@macpost.lu.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA13330 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:01:34 +0100 Received: from macpost.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA19974; Wed, 25 Oct 95 17:04:39 +0100 From: Janna.Spanne@kansli.lth.se To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Oct. Board meeting-not official Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 17:01:30 +0100 Message-Id: <951025.170130.7452@macpost.lu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: OR Som bekant(?) sammantr=E4dde SCA:s Board of Directors f=F6rra helgen. H=E4r =E4r n=E5gra utdrag ur en *inofficiell* redog=F6relse fr=E5n m=F6tet;= =20 jag har bara tagit med s=E5dant som =E4r direkt relevant f=F6r oss.=20 Alla som vill ha den fullst=E4ndiga texten kan f=E5 den fr=E5n mig. OBS att det h=E4r bara =E4r en persons privata minnesanteckningar,=20 inget officiellt protokoll. /Catrin =20 >From: "Michael A. Chance" >Date: Tuesday, October 24, 1995 at 3:09:17 pm EDT >Attached: None > >Here follows a report of the Board of Directors meeting held on October >21, 1995. There are my personal observations, based on notes taken >during the meeting and my recollection of statements and actions. This >should not be considered a complete or authoritative account of the >proceedings. Any errors or omissions are mine. Correction or >amplification from anyone else who was present will be gratefully >received. > >... > >Membership as of October 1st was 25,428. The percentage of members who >are associate or family members is increasing. > >Laurel: ... Laurel is working with >Drachenwald to resolve several issues concerning lost/missing/delayed >submissions. Laurel is also currently looking for a successor, as his >term of office ends in January. >... >Next Board Meeting: Tentatively set for January 18-21, 1996, in >Milpitas, CA, as no bids for this meeting were received. Date and >location will be confirmed during a conference call meeting with the >new Board members. >... > >INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS: > >The Board acknowledged the need to incorporate seperately in several >countries. Currently, several such corporation exist (there are >several in Canada alone, including two in one city); however, none are >formally recognized by the SCA, Inc. in the U.S., except for the >Austrialian SCA, and are not organized as foreign subsidiaries. The >Board further acknowledged that it only has legal standing in the U.S. >The Board directed the Executive Assistant to investigate the necessary >steps to properly incorporate the SCA in all countries were it is >required, and to begin planning for national registries (similar to the >Australian Registry), if they are either necessary or beneficial. > >Nordmark: The Board received two "non-negotiable demands" from the >head of the "Kingdom of Nordmark" in Sweden as conditions for rejoining >the SCA: (1) the right to a sovereign Ting (a ruling body composed of >all paid members in Sweden) with veto authority over all rules and >regulation of the SCA, and (2) the right to choose rulers by any means >they deem acceptable. The Board responded that the first was >impossible under the current Articles of Incorporation, which do not >permit the Board to cede governing authority to any other body. The >second could be negotiated on a case-by-case basis, and variences >granted depending on the form presented. However, any other option >would require significant changes to the SCA's governing documents. > >The remaining groups in Sweden that have chosen to remain a part of the >SCA appear to still have enough members to proceed with plans to create >an SCA Principality. Sweden will be declared the Crown Principality of >Nordmark sometime in the next 2-4 months. As a result, the current >barony and its constituent cantons will change to baronies and shires >in a mass change of status at the January Board meeting. > >Australia: The planned revisions to the Australian SCA's governing >documents are not yet ready to be presented. This item was remanded to >the January meeting. > >OLD BUSINESS: >... >Non-Member Surchage: E.F. Morrill presented a proposal to end the NMS >effective on 1 November 1995 as a "compulsory revenue enhancement >item". It was pointed out that under the just enacted G&PD 18, the >date would have to be at least 60 days from the Board Meeting, >whereupon Mr. Morrill amended his proposal to have the NMS end on 1 >January 1996. It was further pointed out that the NMS was anticipated >to bring in approximately $40,000 in 1996. Much discussion followed >concerning the loss of this revenue, especially in light of the >previously enacted fiscal policy which calls for the creation of a 6 >month operating reserve (which, at present levels, would be >approximately $500,000). Under the proposed budget, the Corporation >would end 1996 with a surplus of about $65,000 with the NMS, and >$25,000 without (barring replacement of the revenue). Finally, a >substitute proposal was drafted which calls for the NMS to end on 30 >June 1996, provided a suitable method for consistently raising an equal >or greater amount of revenue is presented to the Board and adopted. If >an alternative method cannot be found, the NMS will continue to be >collected. This proposal was adopted by roll call vote: > >Carol O'Leary: Aye >E.F. Morrill : Aye >Lee Forgue : Aye >A.J. Riviezzo: Nay >L. Jane Richards: Aye >(simple majority needed for enactment) > ... >Budget: The budget, which had been presented and discussed in >executive session, was approved. Memberships rates will not change for >1996. Projected revenues are approximately $950,000 with projected >expenses totalling approximately $875,000, for a net surplus of >approzimately $65,000 (I recognize that these numbers do not match - >these were the numbers announced by A.J. Riviezzo). The budget is >based on an anticipated 3% growth in membership, instead of the >traditional 10% figure used in recent years. The newsletter stipend >will be increased to the kingdom chroniclers, to cover expected >increases in production and postage costs. > >... > >Translations: It has been brought to the Board's attention that the >SCA is required by Canadian law to have its governing documents >translated into French for Canadian groups. Similar requirements may >also exist in other countries, most notably Sweden and Germany. The >Board also recognized the problem of documents originally written in >languages other than English needing to be translated into English, and >which version should be the controlling document in the case of >differences of meaning. The Board directed the Executive Assistant to >begin looking into obtaining the services of certified translators to >produce translations of the SCA governing docuements in the all >necessary languages, and to draft a proposed Governing and Policy >Decision stating that documents produced by certified translation are >fully equivalent to the English version and that differences in >interpretation will be resolved in favor of the language that the >document was originally written in. > >... > >The new Directors chosen at this meeting are Susan Earley (Maestra >Margherita Alessia), Carolyn Richardson (Mistress Tetchubah of >Greenlake), and William Colbert (Baron William de Montegilt). >... Janna.Spanne@Kansli.LTH.se From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 17:21:32 1995 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:kansli.lth-j.spanne@macpost.lu.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA13647 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:21:31 +0100 Received: from macpost.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA21729; Wed, 25 Oct 95 17:24:38 +0100 From: Janna.Spanne@kansli.lth.se To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Oct. Board meeting-not official Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 17:21:29 +0100 Message-Id: <951025.172129.7493@macpost.lu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: OR Ett par saker som inte kom med i f=F6rra meddelandet.=20 /Catrin >Executive Asssistant: ... >There is now a summary available from the Corporate offices explaining >the insurance coverage provisions of the US-based policy for non-US >activities. >Corporate Office: ... =20 >A modification of the Registry's COBOL software to allow International >members to choose between receiving Tournaments Illuminated or their >kingdom newsletter will cost approximately $1000, and should be able to >be completed by the end of the year. The Board approved going ahead >with the modification. Janna.Spanne@Kansli.LTH.se From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 19:09:19 1995 Return-Path: a95jonso@ikm.his.se Received: from oden (oden.ikm.his.se [193.10.178.201]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA15227 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:09:18 +0100 Received: from [193.10.178.210] by oden via SMTP (931110.SGI/ikm.his.se-941207) for nordmark@ludd.luth.se id AA12367; Wed, 25 Oct 95 19:08:30 -0100 X-Sender: a95jonso@mhost.ikm.his.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:14:19 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: a95jonso@ikm.his.se (Jonas Soderqvist) Subject: Re: Spontan reaktion... Status: OR Spontan reaktion p=E5 Williams artikel... ? Sluta med gn=E4llet och s=E4tt ig=E5ng med leken!!!!! Aodhan From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 19:47:20 1995 Return-Path: Christer.Romson@abc.se Received: from suncd.abc.se (suncd.abc.se [192.36.170.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA15819 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:47:19 +0100 Received: from tor.abc.se by suncd.abc.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09627; Wed, 25 Oct 95 19:47:13 +0100 Received: by tor.abc.se (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26952; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:47:11 +0100 From: m9698@sparc2.abc.se (Christer Romson) Cc: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Nordmarks Konungarike Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:38:54 +0100 Reply-To: Christer.Romson@abc.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199510250821.JAA15900@mn3.swip.net> Lines: 7 Status: OR > om det blir ett konungarike så stöder Agaria vi det, men kommer inte > att gå med i ett SCA furstendöme. Kommer ni att gå med i ett furstendöme om det inte blir nåt kungarike? /Lindorm From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 19:47:17 1995 Return-Path: Christer.Romson@abc.se Received: from suncd.abc.se (suncd.abc.se [192.36.170.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA15816; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:47:15 +0100 Received: from tor.abc.se by suncd.abc.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09625; Wed, 25 Oct 95 19:47:12 +0100 Received: by tor.abc.se (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26944; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:47:10 +0100 From: m9698@sparc2.abc.se (Christer Romson) To: "U.J|rgen \hman" , nordmark@ludd.luth.se (sca) Subject: Re: Ett steg p} v{g. Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:18:35 +0100 Reply-To: Christer.Romson@abc.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199510241616.RAA28128@jason.ludd.luth.se> Lines: 39 Status: OR Ulf skrev: > Det var ju iaf ett steg i r{tt riktning om BoD nu menar att Nordmark ska > bli Furstend|me. De sa ju ocks} att de var villiga att lyssna p} oss iaf. När du skriver att "BoD NU menar att Nordmark ska bli Furstendöme" så kan man tro att de förrut menat att vi inte skulle bli det. Jag kanske övertolkar ditt ordval lite, men det kan nog finnas många andra som tror att bod sagt så. Så är det emmellertid inte. DEN ENDA utanför Nordmark som varit officiellt inblandad är Drachenwalds drots. Så vitt jag förstod så tolkad Ian Kinley det Maire sa som någon sorts SCA:s oficiella åsikt i frågan. > Det verkar som om det var Maire som var den st|rsta proppen i dramat. Jag tycker det verkar som om både hon och Sedalia proppat. Men saker är inte alltid som dom verkar. En hel del av felet är också vårt eget. Vi har bara pratat med kungarikets drots och fortsatt att försöka prata med henne när hon motarbetat oss i stället för att hålla instanserna över henne informerade om vad som händer och sen gå vidare när vi inte kom längre med henne. Dessutom babblade vi en hel del internt om hur vi vill ha det. > 3. Som furstend|me diskuterar vi med BoD direkt. detta med h{nsyn till > tidigare erfarenheter av Kungar och Drotsar. Vi kan diskuttera direkt med bod redan nu. Vi har definitivt fått dom att lyssna... Däremot så bör vi nog följa de ganska väl preciserade (och vettiga) riktlinjer som finns för hur man gör för att bli furstendöme, så länge alla andra (kungarikets drots, kronorna, scas drots, bod) följer den. Det är ju också så att kungar, drotsar och direktörer är människor. De blir utbytta ibland. De nya kan vara mer eller mindre vettiga än sina företrädare. I vilket fall som helst så har det hela tiden varit meningen att vi i slutändan skulle "förhandla" med bod direkt. Det är bara de som har rätt i sca att godkänna vår organisation med ting mm. /Lindorm From nordmark-request Wed Oct 25 19:47:25 1995 Return-Path: Christer.Romson@abc.se Received: from suncd.abc.se (suncd.abc.se [192.36.170.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA15822 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:47:24 +0100 Received: from tor.abc.se by suncd.abc.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09626; Wed, 25 Oct 95 19:47:13 +0100 Received: by tor.abc.se (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26948; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:47:10 +0100 From: m9698@sparc2.abc.se (Christer Romson) Cc: vader@csd.uu.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Ett steg p} v{g. Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:33:26 +0100 Reply-To: Christer.Romson@abc.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199510242317.AAA17214@groucho.csd.uu.se> Lines: 14 Status: OR William skrev bl. a. > Varf|r i hela fridens namn ska vi leka medeltid p} deras (SCA:s) villkor? Jag har varit aktiv i Nordmark under samma tio år som du, sånär som på nåt halvår i början, och under den tiden så har vi inte lekt "på deras villkor". Vi har gjort det vi själva velat. Många har visserligen påverkats av hur sca fungerar, men det är långt därifrån till att leka på nån annans villkor. Ibland har vi trott oss se villkor som inte riktigt fanns. Jag tänker mest på vilken typ av ämbeten och byråkrati vi måste eller inte måste ha. Men det har mest handlat om okunskap hos oss om hur sca fungerar. /Lindorm From nordmark-request Thu Oct 26 01:27:09 1995 Return-Path: vader@csd.uu.se Received: from groucho.csd.uu.se (groucho.csd.uu.se [130.238.12.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA20302 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:27:08 +0100 From: vader@csd.uu.se Received: (from vader@localhost) by groucho.csd.uu.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id BAA26535; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:27:06 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:27:06 +0100 Message-Id: <199510260027.BAA26535@groucho.csd.uu.se> To: Christer.Romson@abc.se CC: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-reply-to: (m9698@sparc2.abc.se) Subject: Re: Ett steg p} v{g. Status: OR Lindorm: >Ibland har vi trott oss se villkor som inte riktigt fanns. Jag t{nker mest >p} vilken typ av {mbeten och byr}krati vi m}ste eller inte m}ste ha. Men >det har mest handlat om okunskap hos oss om hur sca fungerar. [r det inte m{rkligt att man kan ha en grupp p} flera hundra personer som leker inom en f|rening i bort}t 10 }r, utan att folk fattar hur f|reningen fungerar? Det h{r {r inte f|rsta g}ngen jag f}tt h|ra s}dana saker, vi har alla missuppfattat Corpora, vi har inte l{st reglerna, vi har inte hajat. Tydligen {r vi inte heller ensamma om det. Det el{nde som startade i och med v}r furstend|mesprocess berodde till en del p} att de som best{mde inte heller hade fattat vad det faktiskt st}r i Corpora. Det verkar finnas tv} upps{ttningar regler: dels vad som faktiskt st}r skrivet, dels vad folk tror st}r skrivet -- och det g{ller lika mycket i USA som i Sverige. Vad jag menade med min f|rra (ytterst spontana) text var helt enkelt att jag inte ser n}gra f|rdelar f|r oss med att tillh|ra SCAs organisation, i dagsl{get. Det finns en minoritet i Nordmark som }ker utomlands ofta, f|r dem {r det naturligtvis viktigt att vara med i SCA. Men de flesta av oss {r mer intresserade av att utveckla v}r medeltid h{r hemma. D} tycker jag att det borde g|ras p} ett s{tt som vi sj{lva best{mmer. William From nordmark-request Thu Oct 26 09:19:54 1995 Return-Path: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Received: from mn3.swip.net (mn3.swip.net [192.71.180.33]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA24114 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 09:19:53 +0100 From: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Received: by mn3.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/2.01) id JAA24027; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 09:17:14 +0100 Message-ID: <199510260817.JAA24027@mn3.swip.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 9:00:10 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Nordmarks Konungarike X-Mailer: TFS Gateway V210U0469M Status: OR >> om det blir ett konungarike så stöder Agaria vi det, men kommer inte >> att gå med i ett SCA furstendöme. > >Kommer ni att gå med i ett furstendöme om det inte blir nåt kungarike? > > /Lindorm Inte om det blir ett furstendöme med samröre med SCA. Vi stöder idén med en helsvensk förening, den som tidigare kallades för Det Sanna Nordmark. Men om vi skal tramsa oss tillbaka till SCA så får det bli upp till var och en om de vill gå med, men som förening kommer vi att vara fristående. Med andra ord så spelar det ingen roll om nordmark får igenom sina krav hos BoD, det enda som är intressant för oss är att det blir en ny förening. /Archie From nordmark-request Thu Oct 26 09:19:59 1995 Return-Path: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Received: from mn3.swip.net (mn3.swip.net [192.71.180.33]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA24119 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 09:19:58 +0100 From: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Received: by mn3.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/2.01) id JAA24065; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 09:17:19 +0100 Message-ID: <199510260817.JAA24065@mn3.swip.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 9:00:13 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Jakten pa butiker X-Mailer: TFS Gateway V210U0469M Status: OR Vet ni vilka som man kan nå på nätet som finns i Storbritannien (vad var det den fristående gruppen hette) och övriga Europa. Håller på med ett litet projekt och skulle vilja veta var de får tag på sina saker. Smeder Bågar och pilar. Armborst stövlar läder m.m. From nordmark-request Thu Oct 26 10:27:55 1995 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:ralph@astro.lu.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA25151 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:27:54 +0100 Received: from nastol.astro.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA07298; Thu, 26 Oct 95 10:31:02 +0100 Received: by nastol.astro.lu.se(1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA09706; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:27:52 +0100 From: Ralph Snel Message-Id: <9510260927.AA09706@nastol.astro.lu.se> Subject: Re: Jakten pa butiker To: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 10:27:52 MET Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-Reply-To: <199510260817.JAA24065@mn3.swip.net>; from "fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se" at Oct 26, 95 9:00 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: OR > Vet ni vilka som man kan ne pe ndtet som finns i Storbritannien (vad var det > den fristeende gruppen hette) och vvriga Europa. > Heller pe med ett litet projekt och skulle vilja veta var de fer tag pe sina > saker. > Smeder > Begar och pilar. > Armborst > stvvlar > ldder > m.m. Kolla http://www.biochem.ucl.ac.uk/~davis/vikings.html Ralph Snel ralph@astro.lu.se Lund Observatory, Sweden From nordmark-request Thu Oct 26 14:05:56 1995 Return-Path: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Received: from mn3.swip.net (mn3.swip.net [192.71.180.33]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA29712 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 14:05:55 +0100 From: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Received: by mn3.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/2.01) id OAA00128; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 14:03:15 +0100 Message-ID: <199510261303.OAA00128@mn3.swip.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 14:01:23 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Jakten pa butiker X-Mailer: TFS Gateway V210U0469M Status: OR >Kolla http://www.biochem.ucl.ac.uk/üdavis/vikings.html Jag har tyvärr ej tillgång till att webba... From nordmark-request Thu Oct 26 14:19:32 1995 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:ralph@astro.lu.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA29906 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 14:19:31 +0100 Received: from nastol.astro.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA25188; Thu, 26 Oct 95 14:22:39 +0100 Received: by nastol.astro.lu.se(1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA13303; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 14:19:30 +0100 From: Ralph Snel Message-Id: <9510261319.AA13303@nastol.astro.lu.se> Subject: Re: Jakten pa butiker To: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 14:19:30 MET Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-Reply-To: <199510261303.OAA00128@mn3.swip.net>; from "fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se" at Oct 26, 95 2:01 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: OR > >Kolla http://www.biochem.ucl.ac.uk/|davis/vikings.html >From the web page in question: "To comment on these pages, mail davis@bsm.biochemistry.ucl.ac.uk" I'm sure he can find the right persons to talk to. Ralph/Clodwick From zolo Thu Oct 26 17:49:57 1995 Return-Path: zolo Received: (from zolo@localhost) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) id RAA03419; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:49:57 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:49:55 +0100 (MET) From: Oskar Ostlund To: nmlakr@zed.ludd.luth.se cc: Nordmark Arkiv Subject: var aer ni??? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR hej det aer oskar... aer ni pa irc:en isafall var????? zolo@ludd.luth.se From nordmark-request Thu Oct 26 21:47:46 1995 Return-Path: Christer.Romson@abc.se Received: from suncd.abc.se (suncd.abc.se [192.36.170.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA07314 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 21:47:44 +0100 Received: from tor.abc.se by suncd.abc.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06145; Thu, 26 Oct 95 21:47:42 +0100 Received: by tor.abc.se (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23470; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 21:47:38 +0100 From: m9698@sparc2.abc.se (Christer Romson) Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Ett steg p} v{g. Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 20:48:43 +0100 Reply-To: Christer.Romson@abc.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199510260027.BAA26535@groucho.csd.uu.se> Lines: 17 Status: OR William: > [r det inte m{rkligt att man kan ha en grupp p} flera hundra > personer som leker inom en f|rening i bort}t 10 }r, utan att > folk fattar hur f|reningen fungerar? Ja, det är konstigt! Både att så få begripit hur det fungerar och att det fungerar så dåligt. > jag (ser) inte n}gra f|rdelar f|r oss med att tillh|ra SCA I slutändan är det ju det var och en får lov att komma fram till. Vill man vara kvar i sca eller gå ur. Om man är få om sin ståndpunkt får man dessutom fundera på om man ändå ska följa med majoriteten eller bilde en egen mindre grupp. /Lindorm From nordmark-request Fri Oct 27 10:10:11 1995 Return-Path: paul-bod@dsv.su.se Received: from mars.dsv.su.se (mars.dsv.su.se [130.237.158.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA14638 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 10:10:10 +0100 Received: (from paul-bod@localhost) by mars.dsv.su.se (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA20570 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 10:10:09 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 10:10:09 +0100 From: Paul Bodin Message-Id: <199510270910.KAA20570@mars.dsv.su.se> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Kl{dm|nster Status: OR Hej allihopa p} NML:en! Finns det n}gon som vet om det finns n}gra bra kl{dm|nster p} Webben? /Trygge & Wynja From nordmark-request Fri Oct 27 13:20:07 1995 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA16864 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 13:20:06 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id NAA09974; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 13:27:14 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: marianne.demaret@ped.gu.se Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Gotviks Universitet Date: 27 Oct 1995 13:05:24 GMT Message-Id: <2040119199.83869735@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hall} hall} Det m{rket jag med n{r jag monterade den! Bra att ni satte in datumet, jag hade t{nkt g|ra det, men har inte hunnit. Tora From nordmark-request Mon Oct 30 15:30:01 1995 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:kansli.lth-j.spanne@macpost.lu.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA11882 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 15:30:00 +0100 Received: from macpost.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA06037; Mon, 30 Oct 95 15:33:13 +0100 From: Janna.Spanne@kansli.lth.se To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5rtensfest?= i Torsheim Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 15:29:56 +0100 Message-Id: <951030.152956.12185@macpost.lu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: OR Ett envist rykte s=E4ger... ... att Torsheims M=E5rtensfest =E4r fullbokad.=20 Ett annat envist rykte s=E4ger... ... att SCA-iter inte =E4r v=E4lkomna p=E5 M=E5rtensfesten,=20 bara anh=E4ngare av Det Sanna Nordmark.=20 De icke-n=E4tanslutna Torsheimarna som h=E5ller=20 i M=E5rtensfesten l=E5ter p=E5 detta s=E4tt h=E4lsa att DE H=C4R B=C5DA RYKTENA =C4R FULLST=C4NDIGT FALSKA!!! Det FINNS platser kvar till M=E5rtensfesten och ALLA=20 "medeltidare" =E4r v=E4lkomna.=20 Festen h=E5lls i Malm=F6 den 10-12 november. Jag har=20 inga n=E4rmare upplysningar (kommer ungef=E4r n=E4r=20 banketten h=E5lls att befinna mig p=E5 ett t=E5g med=20 destination Prag), men Torsheims kr=F6nik=F6r - som ju=20 rimligtvis borde veta en del - =E4r elektroniskt=20 kontaktbar, p=E5 mikael@maths.lu.se. (Kommer jag ih=E5g det imorgon, s=E5 ska jag ta med vad =20 information jag har och l=E4gga ut den h=E4r.) /Catrin =20 Janna.Spanne@Kansli.LTH.se From nordmark-request Tue Oct 31 15:54:19 1995 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:kansli.lth-j.spanne@macpost.lu.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA01331 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:54:18 +0100 Received: from macpost.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA10259; Tue, 31 Oct 95 15:57:33 +0100 From: Janna.Spanne@kansli.lth.se To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5rtensfest?= Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 15:54:15 +0100 Message-Id: <951031.155415.13787@macpost.lu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: OR H=E4r =E4r de utlovade upplysningarna om M=E5rtensfesten=20 i Torsheim den 10-12 november: Lokal: R=F6nneholmsg=E5rden, Nordlinds v=E4g 84, Malm=F6 =D6vernattning p=E5 n=E4rliggande skola (g=E5ngavst=E5nd),=20 sovs=E4ck och liggunderlag beh=F6vs. Priser: anm=E4lningsavgift 80 kr, g=E4stabud 90 kr,=20 frukost 15 kr/st, lunch 30 kr, =F6vernattning 30 kr/pers och=20 natt. Betalas till pg 331649-4 SKA-Torsheim. Gl=F6m inte att skriva=20 vad du betalar f=F6r.=20 Ta med egen matservis och dryck. G=E5rden =E4r fuktig (dvs =F6l=20 och vin), skolan d=E4r du =F6vernattar =E4r *torr*. Meddela om du=20 =E4r allergiker eller vegetarian (g=E4rna ocks=E5 vilken sort, dvs=20 =E4ter (inte) =E4gg, mj=F6lkprodukter...)=20 Planerade f=F6redrag vid l=F6rdagens universitet: Herr Erik =C5lstene, Ridderlighet; Herr Ragnvald =F6rjansson,=20 Runor och runrader; Sven R=E4vhj=E4rta, Pilb=E5gar;=20 Lord Claudwick, Mj=F6dtillverkning. Ansvarig f=F6r universitetet: Suain Ingulfson (Mikael=20 Thuvesholmen, 040-927590, mikael@maths.lth.se).=20 Autokrater: Magnhild Olofsdotter och Lage G=F6stavsson=20 (Ann-Marie Nilsson och Patric Andersson, 040191568). Sprid det h=E4r! Anm=E4l er! Kom! =20 Janna.Spanne@Kansli.LTH.se