From nordmark-request Thu Feb 1 11:58:38 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA17115 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:58:36 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA07847 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:59:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:59:46 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Pennsic Status: OR Det b=F6rjar n=E4rma sig! Jag s=E5g att Eric FitzWilliam efterfr=E5gade biljettpriser, och det enda jag vet =E4r att de flesta bolag numera tar ungef=E4r samma pris, ca 6300 SEKiner Stockholm - Pittsburgh. Detta =E4r doc= k andrahandsuppgifter. En annan sak. Jag noterade att att m=E5ste anm=E4la med vilken grupp man vil= l kampera om man f=F6ranm=E4ler sig till evenemanget, s=E5 jag tycker det kan = vara dags att b=F6rja fundera p=E5 hur vi vill ha det. Rabbe. From nordmark-request Thu Feb 1 13:41:19 1996 Return-Path: jannkouk@sth.carta.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id NAA18908 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:41:18 +0100 From: jannkouk@sth.carta.se Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id NAA04382; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 13:50:14 +0100 Message-ID: <199602011250.NAA04382@mail.swip.net> Date: Thur, 1 Feb 1996 13:22 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Pennsic Status: OR Ang Pennsic! De vore kanske idé med en gruppresa? Någon som själv åker dit kanske kan kolla möjligheten. En variant är att åka via Frankfurt, då kanske man kunde ha en gruppresa för Drachenwald! ...My penny worth of it! Petrc From nordmark-request Thu Feb 1 14:35:36 1996 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:ralph@astro.lu.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA19962 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:35:34 +0100 Received: from nastol.astro.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA24340; Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:40:30 +0100 Received: by nastol.astro.lu.se(1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA232931726; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:35:26 +0100 From: Ralph Snel Message-Id: <199602011335.AA232931726@nastol.astro.lu.se> Subject: Re: Pennsic To: jannkouk@sth.Carta.se Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 14:35:26 MET Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-Reply-To: <199602011250.NAA04382@mail.swip.net>; from "jannkouk@sth.carta.se" at Feb 1, 96 1:22 pm X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 111.1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: OR > En variant =E4r att =E5ka via Frankfurt, d=E5 kanske man kunde ha en gr= uppresa f=F6r = > Drachenwald! Prices may be lower if you travel from other mayor cities, like Kopenhage= n, London, Amsterdam. The best thing is to have a nice long talk with someon= e at the travel agency who knows what (s)he's talking about. = Stockholm-London-Pittsburg ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:03:27 +0100 From: jonas.degerstrom@riksdagen.se Received: from TFSSMTP by mail.riksdagen.se with smtp (Smail3.1.29.0 #2) id m0thzUV-0005ttC; Thu, 1 Feb 96 14:55 MET Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:08:14 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Pennsic MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway Status: OR =C4r det n=E5gon som vet hur m=E5nga vi kan t=E4nkas bli som =E5ker =F6= ver p=F6len=20 till Pennsic?=20 Det kunde vara kul att veta. =20 /Edmund aka Degen aka Jonas..etc,etc, From nordmark-request Thu Feb 1 15:58:21 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA22523 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:58:19 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA08028 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:59:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:59:28 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Re: Pennsic Status: OR >> En variant =94r att =C2ka via Frankfurt, d=C2 kanske man kunde ha en= gruppresa f=96r >> Drachenwald! >Prices may be lower if you travel from other mayor cities, like Kopenhagen, >London, Amsterdam. The best thing is to have a nice long talk with someone >at the travel agency who knows what (s)he's talking about. > >Stockholm-London-Pittsburg >Ralph/Klodwik >ralph@astro.lu.se > From nordmark-request Thu Feb 1 15:59:30 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA22571 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:59:29 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA08031 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:00:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:00:38 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Pennsic Status: OR > =C4r det n=E5gon som vet hur m=E5nga vi kan t=E4nkas bli som =E5ker= =F6ver p=F6len > till Pennsic? > Det kunde vara kul att veta. > > /Edmund aka Degen aka Jonas..etc,etc, Om alla som pratar om det: massor... men snack =E4r r=E4tt billigt. Rabbe From nordmark-request Thu Feb 1 16:15:04 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id QAA23066 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:15:02 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA08055 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:16:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:16:11 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Pennsic Status: OR >Ang Pennsic! > >De vore kanske id=C8 med en gruppresa? N=C2gon som sj=94lv =C2ker dit= kanske kan >kolla m=96jligheten. > >En variant =94r att =C2ka via Frankfurt, d=C2 kanske man kunde ha en= gruppresa f=96r >Drachenwald! > >...My penny worth of it! > >Petrc Peronlig erfarenhet: Folk har f=F6r olika =F6nskem=E5l f=F6r att en= gruppresa skall vara en bra id=E9. Det =E4r ocks=E5 ett dj=E4vla slit att f=E5 fram vilka so= m *faktiskt* t=E4nker =E5ka. D=E4remot =E4r det fiffigt om alla som hittar bra= resor tipsar. Ang. Frankfurt: En flight till Frankfurt kostar ca SEK 1800, vilket sannorlikt f=F6rtar vinsten. Rabbe. From nordmark-request Thu Feb 1 17:16:18 1996 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id RAA24285 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:16:16 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id RAA07897; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:25:09 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Pennsic Date: 01 Feb 1996 16:47:55 GMT Message-Id: <65534.17207802@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hej Ska jag ta in en "h|r av dig till xx" i Sparren, om pennsic? Tora From nordmark-request Fri Feb 2 12:12:50 1996 Return-Path: <@goliat.dc.luth.se:Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se> Received: from goliat.dc.luth.se (goliat.dc.luth.se [130.240.12.20]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id MAA03077 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 12:12:49 +0100 Received: from unauthenticated@sunic.sunet.se by goliat.dc.luth.se with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.2.8-NS) id AA07945; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:34:57 +0100 Received: from mail.swip.net by sunic.sunet.se (8.6.8/2.03) id FAA05642; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 05:17:26 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id FAA02117; Fri, 2 Feb 1996 05:23:51 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: till sysop Date: 01 Feb 1996 17:20:07 GMT Message-Id: <252974.17424099@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Goddag store sysop! Jag har f}tt en f|rfr}gan om man inte kan h{nga ut prath|gsadressen i Silversparren s} att nya e-postanv{ndare kan anv{nda den. Jag tycker det l{t bra, men vill kolla med dig f|rst. Tora From nordmark-request Sun Feb 4 02:53:42 1996 Return-Path: will@ludd.luth.se Received: from will.ludd.luth.se (ppp0.ppp.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.230]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id CAA10888 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 02:53:40 +0100 Message-ID: <311411D4.B8@ludd.luth.se> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 02:54:28 +0100 From: Håkan Sundqvist X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nordmarks mailing lista Subject: Pennsic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Den stora haken med att best{lla resan till Pennsic verkar f|r tillf{llet vara att prislistorna f|r augusti inte {r f{rdiga f|r alla flygbolag {nnu, och samtidigt s} s{ger de p} resebolagen att om man vill ha n}gon av de billigare biljetterna s} m}ste man boka nu eller senast under februari m}nad. Som det {r nu s} {r vi tv} s{kra som }ker fr}n Frostheim, och eventuellt kan det bli fler, har inte hunnit fr}ga alla {n Det l{gsta priserna jag har f}tt fram ligger mellan 5000 och 5300 och det {r vanliga priser utan ungdoms eller studerande rabatter. Erik FitzWilliam From nordmark-request Sun Feb 4 13:42:04 1996 Return-Path: will@ludd.luth.se Received: from will.ludd.luth.se (ppp2.ppp.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.232]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id NAA17810 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 13:42:02 +0100 Message-ID: <3114A9C9.5F0@ludd.luth.se> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 13:42:49 +0100 From: Håkan Sundqvist X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nordmarks mailing lista Subject: Pennsic boende Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: OR Hur brukar man l|sa boendet p} Pennsic ? Det blir lite tungt att sl{pa med paviljongen som handbagage p} flyget Jag har i och för sig n}gra l|ften om att boendet skall fixa sig om vi bara kommer dit, men det kan ju vara bra att ha andra alternativ, s} att man inte st}r d{r utan bostad n{r man kommer fram. S} {r det n}gon som har varit dit f|rut eller vet om det g}r att hyra paviljong eller hyra in sig n}gonstans. Alla tips {r v{lkommna Erik FitzWilliam From nordmark-request Mon Feb 5 08:57:05 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id IAA02420 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 08:57:04 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA10522 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 22:58:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 22:58:12 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Pennsic Status: OR > >Det l{gsta priserna jag har f}tt fram ligger mellan 5000 och 5300 och >det {r vanliga priser utan ungdoms eller studerande rabatter. Det l=E5ter som bra priser. Har du n=E5gra detaljer? > >Erik FitzWilliam Rabbe. From nordmark-request Mon Feb 5 09:14:55 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA02628 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:14:53 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA10541 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:16:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:16:01 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Pennsic boende Status: OR >Hur brukar man l|sa boendet p} Pennsic ? >Det blir lite tungt att sl{pa med paviljongen som handbagage p} flyget Har jag inte pr=F6vat, men jag =E4r beredd att arbeta efter den hypotesen = =E4nd=E5... >Jag har i och f=F6r sig n}gra l|ften om att boendet skall fixa sig om vi >bara kommer dit, men det kan ju vara bra att ha andra alternativ, s} >att man inte st}r d{r utan bostad n{r man kommer fram. Det vore ballt med ett Drachenwaldl=E4ger, tycker jag. Vad jag f=F6rst=E5r f= inns det en hel del kontakter h=E4r och d=E4r som vi kan anv=E4nda f=F6r att fixa= till det. (Det beror ju en del p=E5 vem som blir kung, f=F6rst=E5s.) > >S} {r det n}gon som har varit dit f|rut eller vet om det g}r att hyra >paviljong eller hyra in sig n}gonstans. >Alla tips {r v{lkommna Grimms Tent Rental. Jag har inte adressen just nu, men kan f=E5 fram den. Grundl=E4ggande, kraftiga t=E4lt som dom s=E4tter upp p=E5 platsen =E5t en. = Inte s=E4rskilt ombonade, med ser b=E4ttre ut en ett campingt=E4lt. > >Erik FitzWilliam Rabbe. From nordmark-request Mon Feb 5 10:04:08 1996 Return-Path: leeu@celsiustech.se Received: from world.celsiustech.se (world.celsiustech.se [139.58.230.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA03107 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:04:07 +0100 Received: (from leeu@localhost) by world.celsiustech.se (8.6.12/8.6.10) id KAA24465 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:05:29 +0100 From: Leif Euren Message-Id: <199602050905.KAA24465@world.celsiustech.se> Subject: Re: Pennsic boende To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se (Nordmark Mailing List) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:05:29 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "jan frelin" at Feb 4, 96 11:16:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Status: OR > Det blir lite tungt att sl{pa med paviljongen som handbagage p} flyget Att dra p} sig |vervikt p} flyget brukar kosta r{tt h{ftigt. Men jag har h|rt att det inte alls kostar lika mycket om det {r planerat, dvs om flygbolaget vet om i f|rv{g att man har mycket packning med sig. Det kan vara v{rt att h|ra efter n{r man best{ller biljetten. /Peder som inte planerat att }ka till Pennsic inom |versk}dlig framtid From nordmark-request Mon Feb 5 10:22:33 1996 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:ralph@astro.lu.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA03340 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:22:32 +0100 Received: from nastol.astro.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA27643; Mon, 5 Feb 96 10:27:33 +0100 Received: by nastol.astro.lu.se(1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA214332151; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:22:31 +0100 From: Ralph Snel Message-Id: <199602050922.AA214332151@nastol.astro.lu.se> Subject: Re: Pennsic boende To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 10:22:30 MET In-Reply-To: <199602050905.KAA24465@world.celsiustech.se>; from "Leif Euren" at Feb 5, 96 10:05 am X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 111.1] Status: OR > Att dra p} sig |vervikt p} flyget brukar kosta r{tt h{ftigt. Men jag > har h|rt att det inte alls kostar lika mycket om det {r planerat, dvs > om flygbolaget vet om i f|rv{g att man har mycket packning med sig. When I went to Pennsic in AS XXV I flew Brittish Airways, and could take two pieces of luggage with me, each weighing no more than 32 kg. I had no problems taking my armour along, and a pavilion should be able to fit in those limits as well. Check with the various companies... Ralph/Cholodovech From nordmark-request Mon Feb 5 19:28:47 1996 Return-Path: macanus@estragon.lysator.liu.se Received: from konrad.lysator.liu.se (lysnet-gw.lysator.liu.se [130.236.253.6]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id TAA14424 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:28:46 +0100 Received: from saerimner.rydnet.lysator.liu.se (saerimner.rydnet.lysator.liu.se [192.168.132.218]) by konrad.lysator.liu.se (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12604 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:28:40 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960205182830.00672ef0@pop.lysator.liu.se> X-Sender: macanus@pop.lysator.liu.se X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 19:28:30 +0100 To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Magnus Lindskog Subject: Konungarikets Silversparre Status: OR Var h=E4lsade alla. Jag har haft lite trubbel med min dator den senaste tiden, vilket har gjort att jag f=F6rlorat emailadresserna till alla ni som =F6nskat f=E5= Silversparren (den Kungliga) i form av email. Jag vore d=E4rf=F6r tacksam om ni kunde= skicka en rad igen, s=E5 att jag kan =E5teruppr=E4tta listan. Mvh, -Roland von Boitzenburg, Konungariket Nordmarks kr=F6nik=F6r. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Magnus Lindskog Alsattersgatan 13 A 34 S-582 51 Linkoping Sweden Phone:+46-13-260702, 0707-981212 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D From nordmark-request Mon Feb 5 20:23:53 1996 Return-Path: will@ludd.luth.se Received: from will.ludd.luth.se (ppp0.ppp.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.230]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id UAA15665 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 20:23:50 +0100 Message-ID: <31165979.1CE1@ludd.luth.se> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 20:24:41 +0100 From: Håkan Sundqvist X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nordmarks mailing lista Subject: Re: Pennsic References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: OR jan frelin wrote: > > > > >Det l{gsta priserna jag har f}tt fram ligger mellan 5000 och 5300 och > >det {r vanliga priser utan ungdoms eller studerande rabatter. > > Det låter som bra priser. Har du några detaljer? > > > > >Erik FitzWilliam > > Rabbe Har tyv{rr inte namnen p} flygbolagen, men jag skall g|ra ett nytt bes|k hos resebyr}n och f|rs|ka skaffa fram fler detaljer s} kan jag }terkomma. Tyv{rr har jag lite v{l mycket att g|ra f|r tillf{llet s} det kan ta n}gra dagar. N{r t{nkte ni andra }ka som funderar p} Pennsic, jag vet att evenemanget {r fr}n den 3 till den 18 aug, men vi hade t{nkt f} vara ett par dagar i Visby innan vi }ker. S} v}rt avresedatum hamnar omkring den 8 aug. Erik fitzWilliam From nordmark-request Tue Feb 6 10:03:25 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA29191 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:03:24 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA11535 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 00:04:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 00:04:31 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Tinget Status: OR En kort rapport fr=E5n Tinget i Ulvberget. Denna rapport har karakt=E4ren av minnesanteckningar. Det finns ett protokoll, men jag har inte sett det =E4n 1. Kronfurstend=F6met Viceroy kommer att kallas st=E5th=E5llare p=E5 svenska. Detta g=E4ller =E4ve= n vicereine. St=E5th=E5llare kommer att utses genom torneringar, och kommer alltid att vara ett par. Tills vidare kommer vi endast att till=E5ta att de som k=E4mpar ocks=E5 m=E5ste regera sj=E4lva. Regeringstiderna kommer att= vara 6 m=E5nader, d=E4r de som vinner torneringarna omedelbart investeras som st=E5th=E5llare. Den f=F6rsta torneringen =E4ger rum i April eller Maj i v= =E5r. Vidare f=F6resl=E5s att tidigare st=E5th=E5llare f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks= vapen som en Augmentation of Arms. 2. Furstend=F6me. Vi besl=F6t att g=E5 vidare med projektet att bli ett furstend=F6me. Vi= skall i princip arbeta s=E5 fort som m=F6jligt med detta. Eftersom det finns en chan= s att vi blir f=F6r f=E5, eller att vi har tappat f=F6r mycket inspiration, ko= mmer vi att g=F6ra en kontrollstation vid n=E4sta ting d=E5 vi ska f=F6rs=F6ka pe= jla st=E4mningarna bland medlemmarna och r=E4kna dem. Vi lade ocks=E5 fast n=E5gra principer f=F6r ett lagf=F6rslag. I allm=E4nhet= kommer furstend=F6met att fungera s=E5 likt kronfurstend=F6met som m=F6jligt. Tills= vidare g=E4ller att tinget har veto mot fursteparets f=F6rslag till lagf=F6r=E4ndri= ngar. S=E4te och st=E4mma vid ting har de som =E4r medlemmar i SCA och bosatta i Nordmark. Vad g=E4ller Nordmarks ordnar s=E5 kommer dessa att beh=E5llas und= er sina nuvarande namn, utom dr=F6mmens orden, som st=E4ngs. D=E4remot kommer sannolikt symbolerna att bytas ut, beroende p=E5 vad ordensmedlemmarna tycker. Tinget var slut omkring 21.00... N=E4sta ting =E4ger rum den 24e September. From nordmark-request Tue Feb 6 12:05:49 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id MAA02324 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 12:05:45 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA11615 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 02:06:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 02:06:52 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Re: Tinget Status: OR >>Vidare f=F6resl=E5s att tidigare st=E5th=E5llare f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks= vapen som en >>Augmentation of Arms. > >H=E4lsningar fr=E5n Uma! >F=F6r en som inte =E4r s=E5 insatt, kan Du f=F6rklara vad Augmentation of= Arms =E4r? >Tack p=E5 f=F6rhand >J=FCrgen Danske > Det finns n=E5t svenskt ord f=F6r det som jag har gl=F6mt. I princip inneb= =E4r det att man f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks vapen i =F6vre dextra h=F6rnet av vapnet.= Inte n=E5n j=E4tteheraldisk hit, precis, men jag blev nedr=F6stad... Rabbe. From nordmark-request Tue Feb 6 13:12:24 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id NAA04573 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 13:12:23 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA11753 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 03:13:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 03:13:30 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Re: Tinget Status: OR >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 12:33:43 +0200 (METDST) >From: Par Leijonhufvud labtek >Subject: Re: Tinget >To: jan frelin >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, jan frelin wrote: > >> N=E4sta ting =E4ger rum den 24e September. > >Om min Filofax inte ljuger =E4r den 24 september 1996 en tisdag. St=E4mmer >datumet? Hoppla. 28 var det tror jag. Kanske ska kollas. > >/P=E4r > >Par Leijonhufvud par.leijonhufvud@labtek.ki.se >If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. > Rabbe. From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 08:37:12 1996 Return-Path: mabe001@posten.se Received: from argus.posten.se (argus.posten.se [192.121.54.163]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id IAA02003 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:37:10 +0100 Received: (from smap@localhost) by argus.posten.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA13701 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:31:06 +0100 Received: from unknown(147.14.7.70) by argus.posten.se via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma013697; Wed Feb 7 08:30:56 1996 Received: from Mats B. ([147.14.52.71]) by info.Posten.SE (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA22493 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:37:32 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 08:37:32 +0100 Message-Id: <199602070737.IAA22493@info.Posten.SE> X-Sender: mabe001@info.posten.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: mabe001@posten.se (Mats Bergström) Subject: Pennsic X-Mailer: Status: OR > =C4r det n=E5gon som vet hur m=E5nga vi kan t=E4nkas bli som =E5ker= =F6ver p=F6len=20 > till Pennsic?=20 > Det kunde vara kul att veta. > =20 > /Edmund aka Degen aka Jonas..etc,etc, Ingen aning, men vi =E4r ca 2-4 fr=E5n Juneborg.=20 /Walderik From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 11:16:40 1996 Return-Path: Antti.Leino@Helsinki.FI Received: from noknic.nokia.com (noknic.nokia.com [131.228.6.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA05792 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:16:39 +0100 From: Antti.Leino@Helsinki.FI Received: from pepper.research.nokia.com (pepper.research.nokia.fi [131.228.12.3]) by noknic.nokia.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA01837 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:16:37 +0200 Received: from possu (possu.research.nokia.fi [131.228.12.100]) by pepper.research.nokia.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA20699 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:17:02 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:17:01 +0200 (EET) Sender: leino@research.nokia.com Reply-To: Antti.Leino@Helsinki.FI Subject: Re: Tinget To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: OR > >>Vidare f=F6resl=E5s att tidigare st=E5th=E5llare f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks= vapen som en > >>Augmentation of Arms. > Det finns n=E5t svenskt ord f=F6r det som jag har gl=F6mt. I princip inne= b=E4r det > att man f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks vapen i =F6vre dextra h=F6rnet av vapnet. = Inte n=E5n > j=E4tteheraldisk hit, precis, men jag blev nedr=F6stad... Ett par flera fr=E5gor om det h=E4r: 1) Menar ni faktiskt Nordmarks vapen (dvs. med lagerkransen) eller den som p=E5 SCA-engelska kallas badge (dvs. utan lagerkransen)? Som jag har f=F6rst=E5tt, =E4r det meningen att den versionen som har kransen anv=E4nds av fursteparet och st=E5th=E5llaren, och den andra av folket, = p=E5 ungef=E4r det s=E4ttet vi brukar ha flaggor h=E4r i Nordiska l=E4nder. 2) =C4r det meningen att de f.d. st=E5th=E5llare ocks=E5 registrerar sina n= ya vapen? Om meningen =E4r att de registrerar vapen som har Nordmarks vapen-med-lagerkrans p=E5 den, s=E5 har ni ett problem: jag tror inte att det =E4r till=E5ten (av SCA's vapenkollegiet) att ha en lagerkrans i personala vapen =E4ven p=E5 det s=E4ttet. Om de inte registrerar den nya vapen, eller om de anv=E4nder vapen-utan-lagerkrans, s=E5 =E4r det ingen problem (annat =E4n att det inte =E4r s=E5 hemskt medeltida att till=E5ta f= .d. regenter att ha Nordmarks vapen som en element i deras egen; ocks=E5 brukade augmentationer vara mycket mera s=E4llsynta =E4n det h=E4r). Pehr Bengtsson Uv, som r=E5kar vara Drachenwalds riksh=E4rold From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 11:36:28 1996 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA06164 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:36:27 +0100 Received: from janna.kansli.lth.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA15469; Wed, 7 Feb 96 11:41:29 +0100 X-Sender: klth-jsp@pop.lu.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:07:19 +0100 To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se (Janna G Spanne) Subject: Re: Tinget Status: OR >... brukade augmentationer vara mycket mera s=E4llsynta =E4n det h=E4r. S=E4llsyntheten var ett argument *f=F6r* just den h=E4r metoden. Det =E4r in= te meningen att fler =E4n kanske fyra personer (tv=E5 par) totalt ska bli f.d. st=E5th=E5llare - titeln upph=F6r i och med att vi blir ett =E4kta furstend= =F6me. /Catrin From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 12:32:02 1996 Return-Path: mabe001@posten.se Received: from argus.posten.se (argus.posten.se [192.121.54.163]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id MAA07297 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:31:59 +0100 Received: (from smap@localhost) by argus.posten.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA14353 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:25:53 +0100 Received: from unknown(147.14.7.70) by argus.posten.se via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma014344; Wed Feb 7 12:25:00 1996 Received: from Mats B. ([147.14.52.71]) by info.Posten.SE (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA25347 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:31:30 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:31:30 +0100 Message-Id: <199602071131.MAA25347@info.Posten.SE> X-Sender: mabe001@info.posten.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: mabe001@posten.se (Mats Bergström) Subject: Re: Tinget X-Mailer: Status: OR > Det finns n=E5t svenskt ord f=F6r det som jag har gl=F6mt. I princip= inneb=E4r det > att man f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks vapen i =F6vre dextra h=F6rnet av vapnet.= Inte n=E5n > j=E4tteheraldisk hit, precis, men jag blev nedr=F6stad... Det =E4r ju j=E4tteskysst. Inte lika skrikigt som en krona, men =E4nd=E5= v=E4ldigt=20 personligt och unikt. En riktig statuspryl.=20 Dessutom, tycker du inte Nordmarks vapen =E4r stiligt? Var =E4r din= patriotism? :-) Ang=E5ende protokollet fr=E5n Tinget. Dag Eriksson, v=E5r fogde, h=E5ller p= =E5 att=20 skriva ut det, s=E5 det kommer snart. /Walderik From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 13:55:21 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id NAA08350 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:55:20 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA13603 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 03:56:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 03:56:26 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Re: Tinget Status: OR >> >>Vidare f=F6resl=E5s att tidigare st=E5th=E5llare f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks= vapen som en >> >>Augmentation of Arms. > >> Det finns n=E5t svenskt ord f=F6r det som jag har gl=F6mt. I princip= inneb=E4r det >> att man f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks vapen i =F6vre dextra h=F6rnet av vapnet.= Inte n=E5n >> j=E4tteheraldisk hit, precis, men jag blev nedr=F6stad... > >Ett par flera fr=E5gor om det h=E4r: > >1) Menar ni faktiskt Nordmarks vapen (dvs. med lagerkransen) eller den > som p=E5 SCA-engelska kallas badge (dvs. utan lagerkransen)? Som jag > har f=F6rst=E5tt, =E4r det meningen att den versionen som har kransen > anv=E4nds av fursteparet och st=E5th=E5llaren, och den andra av folket, = p=E5 > ungef=E4r det s=E4ttet vi brukar ha flaggor h=E4r i Nordiska l=E4nder. S=E5 tolkade beslutet. > >2) =C4r det meningen att de f.d. st=E5th=E5llare ocks=E5 registrerar sina n= ya > vapen? > Jahapp. >Om meningen =E4r att de registrerar vapen som har Nordmarks >vapen-med-lagerkrans p=E5 den, s=E5 har ni ett problem: jag tror inte att >det =E4r till=E5ten (av SCA's vapenkollegiet) att ha en lagerkrans i >personala vapen =E4ven p=E5 det s=E4ttet. Om de inte registrerar den nya >vapen, eller om de anv=E4nder vapen-utan-lagerkrans, s=E5 =E4r det ingen >problem (annat =E4n att det inte =E4r s=E5 hemskt medeltida att till=E5ta f= .d. >regenter att ha Nordmarks vapen som en element i deras egen; ocks=E5 >brukade augmentationer vara mycket mera s=E4llsynta =E4n det h=E4r). Jag tror att den *=E4r* till=E5ten, just som 'vapenf=F6rb=E4ttring'. (=3D 'vapennedklottring'). Normalt sett =E4r det n=E4mligen kungarikets vapen som anv=E4nds. > > Pehr Bengtsson Uv, som r=E5kar vara Drachenwalds riksh=E4rold Hartmann Rogge/Harabanar, som inte tappat huvudet alldeles. From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 14:32:26 1996 Return-Path: Antti.Leino@Helsinki.FI Received: from noknic.nokia.com (noknic.nokia.com [131.228.6.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA09011 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 14:32:25 +0100 From: Antti.Leino@Helsinki.FI Received: from pepper.research.nokia.com (pepper.research.nokia.fi [131.228.12.3]) by noknic.nokia.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA14901 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:32:22 +0200 Received: from possu (possu.research.nokia.fi [131.228.12.100]) by pepper.research.nokia.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA24241 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:32:47 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:32:46 +0200 (EET) Sender: leino@research.nokia.com Reply-To: Antti.Leino@Helsinki.FI Subject: Re: Tinget To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: OR > >Om meningen =E4r att de registrerar vapen som har Nordmarks > >vapen-med-lagerkrans p=E5 den, s=E5 har ni ett problem: jag tror inte at= t > >det =E4r till=E5ten (av SCA's vapenkollegiet) att ha en lagerkrans i > >personala vapen =E4ven p=E5 det s=E4ttet.=20 >=20 > Jag tror att den *=E4r* till=E5ten, just som 'vapenf=F6rb=E4ttring'. (=3D > 'vapennedklottring'). Normalt sett =E4r det n=E4mligen kungarikets vapen = som > anv=E4nds. Nej, inte det; n=E5gra kungariken har speciella element som de anv=E4nder som vapenf=F6rb=E4ttringar, men kungarikets vapen anv=E4nds inte. I alla fa= ll det =E4r vad jag tror -- men jag kollade ocks=E5 on-line armorial. Det fanns 21 SCA-vapen med vapenf=F6rb=E4ttring, och ingen hade en lagerkrans (utom tre baronier som hade kransen i originalvapnet). S=E5, jag tror fortfarande att ni m=E5ste anv=E4nda Nordmarks vapen utan lagerkrans. F=F6rresten vet jag faktiskt inte vem som kan ge vapenf=F6rb=E4ttringar. Troligen m=E5ste det vara ett kr=F6nt regentpar, s=E5 att ni m=E5ste v=E4nt= a tills ni blir ett riktigt furstend=F6me innan ni kan ge vapenf=F6rb=E4ttringar =E5t dom som har varit st=E5th=E5llare. Alternativt = kan deras majesteter av Drachenwald ge vapenf=F6rb=E4ttringen innan ni blir ett furstend=F6me. Peder From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 15:49:40 1996 Return-Path: frithiof@akka.kemi.uu.se Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.kemi.uu.se [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA10752 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:49:38 +0100 Received: by akka.kemi.uu.se id AA18050 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:38:05 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:38:05 +0100 From: Sven Noren Message-Id: <199602071438.AA18050@akka.kemi.uu.se> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Augmentation of arms Status: OR >> >>Vidare f=F6resl=E5s att tidigare st=E5th=E5llare f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks= > vapen som en >> >>Augmentation of Arms. > >> Det finns n=E5t svenskt ord f=F6r det som jag har gl=F6mt. Det heter vapenf|rb{ttring p} svenska. >1) Menar ni faktiskt Nordmarks vapen (dvs. med lagerkransen) eller den > som p=E5 SCA-engelska kallas badge (dvs. utan lagerkransen)? Nordmarks badge {r: P} sk|ld kluven i svart och bl}tt, en sparre av silver inom en gyllene b}rd. Lagerkransen {r allts} ersatt av en b}rd. > Om de inte registrerar den nya >vapen, eller om de anv=E4nder vapen-utan-lagerkrans, s=E5 =E4r det ingen >problem (annat =E4n att det inte =E4r s=E5 hemskt medeltida att till=E5ta f= >.d. >regenter att ha Nordmarks vapen som en element i deras egen; ocks=E5 >brukade augmentationer vara mycket mera s=E4llsynta =E4n det h=E4r). Jag tycker att vapenf|rb{ttring borde vara f|rbeh}llen de som har gjort Nordmark exceptionellt stora tj{nster. Det var ju s} de anv{ndes under medeltiden och ren{ssansen. Dessutom {r vapenf|rb{ttringar med hela riksvapnet s{llsynta, f|r det mesta r|r det sig om en badge eller n}gon figur som syftar p} anledningen till f|rb{ttringen. Det borde g} att hitta p} n}gon annan bel|ning till ex-st}th}llare. Eftersom en exkung blir greve, borde v{l en ex-viceroy bli en vicegreve, men den titeln {r ju f|rbeh}llen exfurstar. Frithiof Sigvardsson Sk{gge, Silversparre H{rold till Nordmark. From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 15:55:23 1996 Return-Path: frithiof@akka.kemi.uu.se Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.kemi.uu.se [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA10849 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:55:22 +0100 Received: by akka.kemi.uu.se id AA18108 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for Nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:43:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:43:48 +0100 From: Sven Noren Message-Id: <199602071443.AA18108@akka.kemi.uu.se> To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se, janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se Subject: Re: Tinget Status: OR >S=E4llsyntheten var ett argument *f=F6r* just den h=E4r metoden. Det =E4r in= >te >meningen att fler =E4n kanske fyra personer (tv=E5 par) totalt ska bli f.d. >st=E5th=E5llare - titeln upph=F6r i och med att vi blir ett =E4kta furstend= >=F6me. Haken {r v{l, enligt min ringa }sikt, att vi d} inte kan ge fler f|rtj{nta personer denna bel|ning. Kunde man kanske t{nka sig att st}th}llarna tilldelas ett par sk|ldh}llare i st{llet, Nordmarksf}glar kanske? Frithiof the friendly herald (Sven.Noren@kemi.UU.SE) From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 16:00:42 1996 Return-Path: frithiof@akka.kemi.uu.se Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.kemi.uu.se [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id QAA11003 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:00:40 +0100 Received: by akka.kemi.uu.se id AA18161 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:48:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:48:19 +0100 From: Sven Noren Message-Id: <199602071448.AA18161@akka.kemi.uu.se> To: mabe001@posten.se, nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Tinget Status: OR >Det =E4r ju j=E4tteskysst. Inte lika skrikigt som en krona, men =E4nd=E5= En krona blir v{l inte skrikig f|rr{n man r}kar s{tta sig p} den? :-) >Dessutom, tycker du inte Nordmarks vapen =E4r stiligt? Inget fel p} Nordmarks vapen, men kanske p} att trycka upp det i h|rnet p} ett redan snyggt vapen..? Frithiof the friendly herald (Sven.Noren@kemi.UU.SE) From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 16:05:32 1996 Return-Path: masc@sweden.hp.com Received: from hplb.hpl.hp.com (hplb.hpl.hp.com [15.255.59.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id QAA11114 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:05:29 +0100 Received: from hpustoix.sweden.hp.com by hplb.hpl.hp.com; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:05:23 GMT Received: by hpustoix.sweden.hp.com (1.38.193.5/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA24331; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:05:21 +0100 From: Marie Schroder Message-Id: <9602071505.AA24331@hpustoix.sweden.hp.com> Subject: augm.of arms To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 16:05:21 MET X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.13i] Status: OR Hej och speciellt hej till Skaegge. Det var liksom vitsen att vi inte ville ha naagon titel till den feore detta staathaallaren. Det draeller runt nog med folk som grevar och visconter.... vi diskuterade att de skulle faa naagon orden eller moejligtvis denna s.k. augmentation of arms.......och detta vann diskutionen - urk urk urk.... i alla fall skulle vi informera vaara regenter om att det aer detta vi oenskar eftersom det i saa fall blir de som delar ut saken ifraaga. Marie From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 16:13:16 1996 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id QAA11321 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:13:15 +0100 Received: from janna.kansli.lth.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA02163; Wed, 7 Feb 96 16:18:17 +0100 X-Sender: klth-jsp@pop.lu.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:44:08 +0100 To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se (Janna G Spanne) Subject: Re: Tinget Status: OR =46rithiof f=F6resl=E5r: >Haken =E4r v=E4l, enligt min ringa =E5sikt, att vi d=E5 inte kan ge fler >f=F6rtj=E4nta personer denna bel=F6ning. Kunde man kanske t=E4nka sig att >st=E5th=E5llarna tilldelas ett par sk=F6ldh=E5llare i st=E4llet, Nordmarksf= =E5glar >kanske? Jag tycker mig minnas en artikel (i en gammal Known World Handbook?) som g=E5r ut p=E5 att folk inte anv=E4nder "snofsiga" heraldiska presentationer av ren sl=F6het eller os=E4kerhet om vad som g=E4ller. Sk=F6ldh=E5llare =E4r enligt artikeln =F6verhuvudtaget inte reglerade i SCA,= det =E4r bara att tuta och k=F6ra, ungef=E4r som med valspr=E5k - till skillnad fr=E5= n t.ex. den engelska eller skotska heraldiken. Om det =E4r s=E5, tycker jag det vore synd att h=E4r i Nordmark i princip reservera sk=F6ldh=E5llare till utm=E4rkelser som man m=E5ste tilldelas form= ellt. Vi borde ist=E4llet uppmuntra folk att v=E5ga anv=E4nda sk=F6ldh=E5llare.= Visst, det blir nog ganska vildvuxet till att b=F6rja med, men det lugnar sig s=E4kert = med tiden. /Catrin From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 16:34:03 1996 Return-Path: mabe001@posten.se Received: from argus.posten.se (argus.posten.se [192.121.54.163]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id QAA12135 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:34:00 +0100 Received: (from smap@localhost) by argus.posten.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00954 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:27:54 +0100 Received: from unknown(147.14.7.70) by argus.posten.se via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma000949; Wed Feb 7 16:26:41 1996 Received: from Mats B. ([147.14.52.71]) by info.Posten.SE (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA28238 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:32:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:32:38 +0100 Message-Id: <199602071532.QAA28238@info.Posten.SE> X-Sender: mabe001@info.posten.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: mabe001@posten.se (Mats Bergström) Subject: Re: Tinget X-Mailer: Status: OR >Haken {r v{l, enligt min ringa }sikt, att vi d} inte kan ge fler >f|rtj{nta personer denna bel|ning. Kunde man kanske t{nka sig att=20 >st}th}llarna tilldelas ett par sk|ldh}llare i st{llet, Nordmarksf}glar >kanske? > Det =E4r ett mycket vettigt argument. Kan man registrera sk=F6ldh=E5llare?= Jag=20 trodde inte det i alla fall.=20 Hur som helst tycker jag inte att man borde ha fler "=E4rotittlar" och= absolut=20 inte fler kronor. S=E5dana kommer vi att f=E5 massor av =E4nd=E5 i= framtiden. Vad jag minns (men jag kan ha fel) s=E5 best=E4mmde aldrig Tinget hur vapnet= =20 skulle plussas. Bara att det var s=E5 vi skulle bel=F6na gamla st=E5th=E5lla= re. Walderik From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 17:25:45 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id RAA13446 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:25:44 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA13824 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:26:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:26:52 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Re: Tinget Status: OR >Nej, inte det; n=E5gra kungariken har speciella element som de anv=E4nder >som vapenf=F6rb=E4ttringar, men kungarikets vapen anv=E4nds inte. I alla fa= ll >det =E4r vad jag tror -- men jag kollade ocks=E5 on-line armorial. Det >fanns 21 SCA-vapen med vapenf=F6rb=E4ttring, och ingen hade en lagerkrans >(utom tre baronier som hade kransen i originalvapnet). S=E5, jag tror >fortfarande att ni m=E5ste anv=E4nda Nordmarks vapen utan lagerkrans. OK. > >F=F6rresten vet jag faktiskt inte vem som kan ge vapenf=F6rb=E4ttringar. >Troligen m=E5ste det vara ett kr=F6nt regentpar, s=E5 att ni m=E5ste v=E4nt= a >tills ni blir ett riktigt furstend=F6me innan ni kan ge >vapenf=F6rb=E4ttringar =E5t dom som har varit st=E5th=E5llare. Alternativt = kan >deras majesteter av Drachenwald ge vapenf=F6rb=E4ttringen innan ni blir ett >furstend=F6me. Vi t=E4nkte att kungen skulle g=F6ra det, helt enkelt. N=E4r furstar avg=E5r= blir de viscomter i alla fall. D=E5 =E4r vitsen liksom borta. > > Peder Hartmann. From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 17:29:35 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id RAA13511 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:29:34 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA13828 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:30:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:30:41 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Re: Augmentation of arms Status: OR >Jag tycker att vapenf|rb{ttring borde vara f|rbeh}llen de som har gjort >Nordmark exceptionellt stora tj{nster. Det var ju s} de anv{ndes under >medeltiden och ren{ssansen. Dessutom {r vapenf|rb{ttringar med hela >riksvapnet s{llsynta, f|r det mesta r|r det sig om en badge eller n}gon >figur som syftar p} anledningen till f|rb{ttringen. > >Det borde g} att hitta p} n}gon annan bel|ning till ex-st}th}llare. >Eftersom en exkung blir greve, borde v{l en ex-viceroy bli en >vicegreve, men den titeln {r ju f|rbeh}llen exfurstar. Iofs utm=E4rkta =E5sikter som l=E4mpligen framf=F6rs p=E5 tinget... Personli= gen tycker jag n=E5n orden hade varit b=E4ttre. > >Frithiof Sigvardsson Sk{gge, Silversparre H{rold till Nordmark. Rabbe From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 17:44:31 1996 Return-Path: jannkouk@sth.carta.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id RAA13794 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:44:30 +0100 From: jannkouk@sth.carta.se Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id RAA22500; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 17:53:33 +0100 Message-ID: <199602071653.RAA22500@mail.swip.net> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 16:58 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Augment Status: OR """ Vad jag minns (men jag kan ha fel) så bestämmde aldrig Tinget hur vapnet skulle plussas. Bara att det var så vi skulle belöna gamla ståthållare. """ Bingo! Jag har också för mig att det bestämdes att det borde vara en Augmentation of Arms, men inget om vad denna Augmentation skulle vara. Nordmarks vapen nämndes. Hmm, har jag fel eller är ändringen av en sköld med att lägga till en canton med nordmarks vapen inte möjlig efter nuvarande regler. Kan det överhuvudtages göras som en augmentation. Cantoner är väl endast för ingifte eller tillydnadsmärke (fealty ;) Min heraldik är VÄLdigt ringrostig Jag föredrar dock någon slags symbol *på* vapnet och inte sköldbärare, etc. Vad sägs om en Corona Muralis centrerad under primary (Arngrims idé) Själv tycker jag det låter j-vligt bra Såsom det var skrivet, Petrc Monomachos From nordmark-request Wed Feb 7 21:01:59 1996 Return-Path: Christer.Romson@abc.se Received: from bure.abc.se (bure.abc.se [192.36.170.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id VAA18446 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 21:01:56 +0100 Received: from tor.abc.se by bure.abc.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA06855; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 21:01:51 +0100 Received: by tor.abc.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA08432; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 21:01:47 +0100 From: Christer.Romson@abc.se (Christer Romson) To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Tinget Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 19:58:11 +0100 Reply-To: Christer.Romson@abc.se MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Lines: 30 Status: OR Pratade tinget något om förkämpetornering? Både inom kronfurstendömet eller det riktiga furstendömet. Om vi är för få (eller för trötta/lata) för att bilda förstendöme, vad händer då? Vi kan väl knappast förbli furstendöme. Det var ju en tillfällig grej, som vi ska vara under processen att bilda furstendöme. Harabanar: > Vidare f=F6resl=E5s att tidigare st=E5th=E5llare f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks > vapen som en Augmentation of Arms. Jörgen: > kan Du f=F6rklara vad Augmentation of Arms =E4r? Harabanar: > Det finns n=E5t svenskt ord f=F6r det som jag har gl=F6mt. I princip > inneb=E4r det att man f=E5r b=E4ra Nordmarks vapen i =F6vre dextra > h=F6rnet av vapnet. Vapenförbättring, tror jag den svenska termen är. Både på Engelska och Svenska tror jag att man anger att vapenförbättringen (i det här fallet) bärs i en kanton på skölden. En kanton är i det här fallet en liten fyrkant i hörnet på skölden, ungefär en sjättedel av sköldens yta. Heraldiskt-Stilistiskt är det en försämring snarare än en förbättring av vapnet. I vissa perioder (men knappast under medeltiden) användes såna saker som äretecken. Lindorm From nordmark-request Thu Feb 8 01:37:49 1996 Return-Path: <@goliat.dc.luth.se:ghita@mcs.com> Received: from goliat.dc.luth.se (goliat.dc.luth.se [130.240.12.20]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id BAA24026 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 01:37:47 +0100 Received: from unauthenticated@Kitten.mcs.com by goliat.dc.luth.se with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.2.8-NS) id AA11880; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 01:37:44 +0100 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA10752; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 18:36:14 -0600 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:36 CST Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 7 Feb 96 18:36 CST Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 18:36:08 -0600 (CST) From: Susan Earley X-Sender: ghita@Mercury.mcs.com To: Kingdom Mailing Lists , artemisia@umt.umt.edu, atlantia-l@netcom.com, calontir@unl.edu, Nordmark@ludd.luth.se, Northshield@stolaf.edu, sca-east@world.std.com, sca-lochac@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au, sca-middle@dnaco.net Cc: Carolyn Richardson Subject: Committee members wanted Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR >From Carolyn_Richardson@notes.cch.comWed Feb 7 18:27:20 1996 Date: 7 Feb 96 16:18:43 From: Carolyn Richardson To: sca-caid , sca-west , sca-reform , outlands Cc: ghita Subject: Committee members wanted The following letter has been posted to the West, Caid, Outlands, and Reform Lists. Please cross post it to any other lists you know of - these are the only ones I subscribe to and can post to. A hardcopy of this letter was mailed to all Kingdom Exchequers and Kingdom Seneschals on February 6. If you have already applied to be on one of these committees you _do not_ need to reapply - I already have you on file. Please note that the duties of the committees listed below are not in any particular order (I suspect they'll want to elect a chairman first). Also, members of the BCC may be asked to travel to the Milpitas office sometime this year in order to perform a review of the corporate books (this is optional - it isn't required). Details and a definite time will be worked out later. If you have any questions please feel free to call or email me. Tetchubah of Greenlake *****Letter follows***** To all Kingdom Seneschals and Exchequers, and to any other person who may see this letter, The Board needs you! Specifically, I am writing to request your help in recruiting new members for the Finance Committee and the Budget Compliance Committee. This is what the committees are currently set up to do (or will be doing): Finance Committee: Assist the Treasurer with preparation of the next budget; investigate and present possible investment options to the Board (to optimize our interest income); investigate options for fundraising and poll the membership on those options; present to the Board the results of such investigation/poll; elect a chairman; solicit commentary on long range financial plans and prepare recommendations for the Board. Finance committee reports to the Finance Ombudsman and the Treasurer. Qualifications: None, but a background in accounting, finance, investing or long range financial planning would be a definite plus. The plan is to make this committee broader based than the BCC. Budget Compliance Committee (BCC): Review variances between budgeted amounts and actual expenses/income on a monthly/quarterly basis, recommend ways to reduce amount of said variances if they are detrimental; investigate the reason(s) for large variances; review the proposed budget (prepared by the Finance Committee and Treasurer) and suggest changes where appropriate; elect a chairman. The BCC will report to the Finance Ombudsman, not the Treasurer. This committee does not include any members of the Board of Directors. Qualifications: Background in finance, accounting, or investing is a plus, or a demonstrated ability to interpret budgets and similar reports. If you know of someone in your kingdom who may be interested in participating in one of these committees, please have them contact me no later than April 1, 1996. If you or someone you know was a member of one of these committees in the past and is interested in staying on the committee, likewise please let me know by April 1 or you will be replaced by a new applicant. Please send a mundane and SCA resume to the address above (since this is email the address shown on the hardcopy is my address - Carolyn Richardson, 645 Chestnut Avenue #106, Long Beach, CA 90802). Email applications will be accepted if received by the deadline, but please follow up with a hardcopy via regular post. Any member of the SCA may apply. Please distribute this letter as widely as possible. Thank you for your help. Sincerely, [signature] Carolyn Richardson, Finance Ombudsman *****End of letter***** From nordmark-request Thu Feb 8 08:09:05 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id IAA29705 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 08:09:04 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA14252 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 1996 22:10:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 22:10:11 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: Re: Tinget Status: OR >Pratade tinget n=E5got om f=F6rk=E4mpetornering? B=E5de inom kronfurstend= =F6met >eller det riktiga furstend=F6met. Japp. Vi best=E4mde oss f=F6r att inte ha det. Jag f=F6rs=F6kte uttycka det= i det f=F6rsta brevet. > > Lindorm Rabbe. From nordmark-request Thu Feb 8 09:35:52 1996 Return-Path: frithiof@akka.kemi.uu.se Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.kemi.uu.se [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA00985 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:35:51 +0100 Received: by akka.kemi.uu.se id AA20960 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for Nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:24:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:24:17 +0100 From: Sven Noren Message-Id: <199602080824.AA20960@akka.kemi.uu.se> To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se, mabe001@posten.se Subject: Re: Tinget Status: OR >Det =E4r ett mycket vettigt argument. Kan man registrera sk=F6ldh=E5llare?= Man kan registrera dem som badger: "En upprest anka h}llande en sk|ld". Samma sak f|r hj{lmprydnader f|r |vrigt: "En skvader st}ende p} en hj{lmvulst". (Fyll i tinkturer sj{lv.) >Hur som helst tycker jag inte att man borde ha fler "=E4rotittlar" och= >absolut inte fler kronor. [rotitlar och kronor {r den form som bel|ningar tar i SCA, d{rf|r att vi inte som under feodalv{ldets dagar kan ge land till folk. Att ge vapenf|rb{ttringar kan vara ett alternativ, men jag {r r{dd f|r en inflation h{r ocks}. P} grund av min yrkesskada anser jag f|rst}s heraldisk inflation vara v{rre {n n}got annat! :-) Man beh|ver ju inte anv{nda hela vapnet/badgen som f|rb{ttring, man kan anv{nda l{mplig del och individualisera resultatet. P} somliga vapen kan man l{gga till en sparre i silver kanske, eller en b}rd i svart och bl}tt, eller n}got annat som kan p}minna om Nordmarks f{rger. >Walderik Frithiof From nordmark-request Thu Feb 8 09:51:12 1996 Return-Path: frithiof@akka.kemi.uu.se Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.kemi.uu.se [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA01137 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:51:11 +0100 Received: by akka.kemi.uu.se id AA21051 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:39:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:39:27 +0100 From: Sven Noren Message-Id: <199602080839.AA21051@akka.kemi.uu.se> To: jannkouk@sth.Carta.se, nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Augment Status: OR >Hmm, har jag fel eller är ändringen av en sköld med att lägga till en >canton med nordmarks vapen inte möjlig efter nuvarande regler. Kan det >överhuvudtages göras som en augmentation. Inte nordmarks vapen eftersom det har en lagerkrans, men Nordmarks badge g}r utm{rkt. Augmentationer (wow! vilken anglicism!) anv{nds en del p} andra h}ll i SCA. >Cantoner är väl endast för ingifte eller tillydnadsmärke (fealty ;) Nejd}, under medeltid och ren{ssans anv{ndes de just f|r vapenf|rb{ttringar. Likas} ginstammar, bj{lkar, hj{rtsk|ldar, sk|ldar i vapnets |verdel, sparrar, och kvadreringar. >Min heraldik är VÄLdigt ringrostig "An annulet tenne'"? >Jag föredrar dock någon slags symbol *på* vapnet och inte sköldbärare, etc. >Vad sägs om en Corona Muralis centrerad under primary (Arngrims idé) Själv >tycker jag det låter j-vligt bra Hmm... Murkronor anv{nds i Sverige p} stadsvapen. Jag tyckte parallellen st}th}llare=sk|ldh}llare var en bra vits, men jag {r |ppen f|r andra f|rslag. >Såsom det var skrivet, Petrc Monomachos Frithiof "Heralds don't pun; they cant"! From nordmark-request Thu Feb 8 10:51:28 1996 Return-Path: u36100022@jonkoping.mail.telia.com Received: from d2o0.telia.com (d2o0.telia.com [193.44.55.101]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA01980 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:51:26 +0100 Received: from d1o2.telia.com (root@d1o2.telia.com [194.22.189.241]) by d2o0.telia.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA19206 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:43:41 +0100 Received: from t10o2p14.telia.com (t10o2p14.telia.com [194.22.189.168]) by d1o2.telia.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA18563 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:46:32 +0100 Message-Id: <199602080946.KAA18563@d1o2.telia.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 10:51:24 -0500 From: Roger Antonijev Sender: u36100022@jonkoping.mail.telia.com Reply-To: Roger Antonijev Subject: Request To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se X-Mailer: EMBLA Lite 1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: OR Goddag! Jag heter Roger Antonijev, medlem i Juneborg och jag skulle vilja prenumere= ra p=E5 nordmarks mailinglista. Mitt persona =E4r Jakob M=F6rke, sent 1200 tal Min E-mailadress =E4r roa@jonkoping.mail.telia.com /Roger :-)))) From nordmark-request Thu Feb 8 12:50:09 1996 Return-Path: mabe001@posten.se Received: from eru.mt.luth.se (eru.mt.luth.se [130.240.19.9]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id MAA04289 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:50:03 +0100 Received: from argus.posten.se (argus.posten.se [192.121.54.163]) by eru.mt.luth.se (8.7.3/8.7.Beta.13) with ESMTP id MAA28117 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:49:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from smap@localhost) by argus.posten.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA04276 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:41:11 +0100 Received: from unknown(147.14.7.70) by argus.posten.se via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma004266; Thu Feb 8 12:40:31 1996 Received: from Mats B. ([147.14.52.71]) by info.Posten.SE (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA07736 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:46:58 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:46:58 +0100 Message-Id: <199602081146.MAA07736@info.Posten.SE> X-Sender: mabe001@info.posten.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: mabe001@posten.se (Mats Bergström) Subject: Chatelain X-Mailer: Status: OR Hej, jag fick ett brev fr=E5n den nya chatelainen i, jag tror, Frostheim. Dock lyckades jag direkt radera det. Sn=E4lla du som skrev till mig, kan inte du skicka om ditt brev, s=E5 lovar jag att svara den h=E4r g=E5ngen= From nordmark-request Thu Feb 8 20:02:57 1996 Return-Path: will@ludd.luth.se Received: from will.ludd.luth.se (ppp1.ppp.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.231]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id UAA14493 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 1996 20:02:55 +0100 Message-ID: <311A491B.9E8@ludd.luth.se> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 20:03:55 +0100 From: Håkan Sundqvist X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nordmarks mailing lista Subject: Pennsic Priser Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Nu har jag kollat de priser som jag hade. Priserna g{ller Arlanda-Pittsburg tur och retur avresa 8 aug och hemresa 18 aug. SAS 6700:- Delta Airlines 6700:- American Airlines 5600:- Brittish Airways 5300:- KLM 5000:- Prisuppgifterna har jag f}tt fr}n Motorm{nnens resebyr} i Lule}. Flygskatt p} ca 150-300 kr tillkommer. Vi (jag, Ulf Mj|dtunga och Runa Varg) {r inbokade med Brittish Airways och st}r p} v{ntelista hos KLM som redan {r fullbokade. N{stan inga bolag har f{rdiga prislistor f|r augusti utan priserna {r ungef{rliga. Erik FitzWilliam From nordmark-request Mon Feb 12 12:30:47 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id MAA17360 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:30:46 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA17424 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 02:31:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 02:31:49 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E5th=E5llartornering?= Status: OR Nordmarks f=F6rsta st=E5th=E5llartornering =E4ger rum i Ulvberget (i= Varnhem) den 19-21 April i samband med den tidigare planerade Majgreven (som dessutom =E4= r flyttad) INBJUDAN TILL ST=C5TH=C5LLARTORNERING Du =C4r: * 18 =E5r. * Bosatt i Nordmark. * Medlem i SCA, Inc. * Prenumerant p=E5 Dragons Tale och Silversparren. * Auktoriserad k=E4mpe. * Har en dam/herre att sl=E5ss f=F6r. * Har ett konstn=E4rligt bidrag att st=E4lla upp med. D=E5 borde du medverka p=E5 Nordmarks f=F6rsta st=E5th=E5llartornering! Den = =E4ger n=E5gon i April eller Maj (Datum meddelas senare). M=E5 Nordmarks =C4ra lysa= =F6ver en tornering med m=E5nga v=E4lborna deltagare. Brev med ans=F6kan om att f=E5 delta till mig senast den f=F6rsta April. Tycker, Harabanar, vicar av Nordmark. Jan Frelin Granskogsv. 48 165 75 H=E4sselby jan.frelin@pub.mil.se From nordmark-request Mon Feb 12 12:36:22 1996 Return-Path: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id MAA17461 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:36:20 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA17436 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 02:37:25 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 02:37:25 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jan.frelin@pub.mil.se (jan frelin) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E5th=E5llartornering?= Status: OR >Nordmarks f=F6rsta st=E5th=E5llartornering =E4ger rum i Ulvberget (i= Varnhem) den >19-21 >April i samband med den tidigare planerade Majgreven (som dessutom >=E4r flyttad) > ... >D=E5 borde du medverka p=E5 Nordmarks f=F6rsta st=E5th=E5llartornering! Den= =E4ger >n=E5gon i >April eller Maj (Datum meddelas senare). M=E5 Nordmarks =C4ra ly= sa >=F6ver en tornering >med m=E5nga v=E4lborna deltagare. Som framg=E5tt =E4r detta fel! Tid och plats =E4r visst best=E4mt, enligt ov= an. Rabbe. From nordmark-request Mon Feb 12 19:45:40 1996 Return-Path: ERA.ERAAINA@memo.ericsson.se Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se (mailgate.ericsson.se [130.100.2.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id TAA28703 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:45:38 +0100 From: ERA.ERAAINA@memo.ericsson.se Received: from edt02.ericsson.se (edt02.ericsson.se [136.225.9.4]) by mailgate.ericsson.se (8.6.11/1.0) with ESMTP id TAA12237 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:45:36 +0100 Received: from memo50.ericsson.se by edt.ericsson.se (PMDF V5.0-5 #13379) id <01I14YPKJ8BK96WSMB@edt.ericsson.se> for NORDMARK@LUDD.LUTH.SE; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:43:44 +0100 Received: with PMDF-MR; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:43:41 +0100 MR-Received: by mta EDS05; Relayed; Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:43:41 +0100 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:44:00 +0100 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Avst=E4ngning?= To: NORDMARK@LUDD.LUTH.SE Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT UA-content-id: BmFJsmW'FQFeYeIM X400-MTS-identifier: [;14349121206991/3139870@EDS] Hop-count: 2 Status: OR --- Received from ERA.ERAAINA 08-757 3505 96-02-12 19:44 -> VAX.NORDMARK..LUDD.LUTH.SE..INET -: - - - - - - - - - - > MAIL USER IN VAX AND INTERNET Hello! Unfortunately my access to Internet will be reduced to null and void, so please delete me from the Nordmark Mailing List. If you need to get in touch with me or wish to send me some material, please do not use E-mail - it won't reach me after Thursday 15th of February (i.e. almost now). Please feel free to forward this information to anyone if they should have any use of it! Best regards, Heloise From nordmark-request Fri Feb 16 04:09:06 1996 Return-Path: unicorn@csd.uu.se Received: from kobra.csd.uu.se (kobra.csd.uu.se [130.238.16.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id EAA02267 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 04:09:05 +0100 Received: (from unicorn@localhost) by kobra.csd.uu.se (8.6.10/8.6.9) id EAA00159; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 04:09:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 04:09:03 +0100 From: Vicki Schalin Message-Id: <199602160309.EAA00159@kobra.csd.uu.se> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se cc: eva@ebnilsson.pp.se Subject: subscribe Status: OR V}r Drots, Mary Wood, har nu beg}vats med elektronisk kontakt. Hon vill bli adderad till NML. Nytt som det {r s} funkar det inte att skriva brev, men v{l att l{sa, det {r d{rf|r detta meddelande kommer fr}n mig. Hennes adress: eva@ebnilsson.pp.se /Deirdre ni Bheirne (medlem i Marys hush}ll) From nordmark-request Fri Feb 16 11:34:15 1996 Return-Path: a95jonso@ikm.his.se Received: from karon.his.se (karon.his.se [193.10.176.23]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA08116 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:34:14 +0100 Received: from oden (oden.ikm.his.se) by karon.his.se (5.0/his.se-931126) id AA00045; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:35:38 +0100 Received: from [193.10.178.211] by oden via SMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/ikm.his.se-941207) for id LAA05559; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:32:42 -0100 X-Sender: a95jonso@mhost.ikm.his.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:37:12 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: a95jonso@ikm.his.se (Jonas Soderqvist) Subject: Nytt liv... Status: OR Hej alla! Jag har nu mera ett nytt liv och det lever jag p=E5 en ny plats, n=E4mligen: Jonas S=F6derqvist Kaplans gatan 10 541 34 Sk=F6vde 0500-41 36 89 Min E-post bor d=E4r den alltid har gjort. Om n=E5gon vill =E4ndra mina uppgifter i sparren s=E5 skulle jag bli glad... Tack och skicka g=E4rna kort, brev eller h=E5rda paket /Aodhan macNiall, H=E4radsh=F6vding i Ulvberget From nordmark-request Fri Feb 16 11:44:19 1996 Return-Path: a95jonso@ikm.his.se Received: from karon.his.se (karon.his.se [193.10.176.23]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA08303 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:44:17 +0100 Received: from oden (oden.ikm.his.se) by karon.his.se (5.0/his.se-931126) id AA00088; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:45:44 +0100 Received: from [193.10.178.211] by oden via SMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/ikm.his.se-941207) for id LAA05584; Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:42:48 -0100 X-Sender: a95jonso@mhost.ikm.his.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:47:19 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: a95jonso@ikm.his.se (Jonas Soderqvist) Subject: Pennsic Status: OR >> =C4r det n=E5gon som vet hur m=E5nga vi kan t=E4nkas bli som =E5ker= =F6ver p=F6len >> till Pennsic? >> Det kunde vara kul att veta. >> >> /Edmund aka Degen aka Jonas..etc,etc, > >Ingen aning, men vi =E4r ca 2-4 fr=E5n Juneborg. > /Walderik Jag (dvs Aodhan), Karl macLeod och Brynolf har plannerat ett bes=F6k. (Om det var n=E5gon som var intresserad allts=E5...) /Aodhan From nordmark-request Sat Feb 17 18:09:00 1996 Return-Path: will@ludd.luth.se Received: from will.ludd.luth.se (ppp4.ppp.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.234]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id SAA10420 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 1996 18:08:57 +0100 Message-ID: <31260BF3.6097@ludd.luth.se> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 18:10:11 +0100 From: Håkan Sundqvist X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nordmarks mailing lista Subject: Pennsic L{ger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Hej Eftersom det verkar vara ganska m}nga fr}n Nordmark som skall }ka till Pennsic s} undrar jag om det {r n}gra som {r intresserade av att bo i ett Nordmarksl{ger. Allts}, skall vi sprida ut oss eller skall vi g|ra Pennsic os{kert i samlad trupp. Ventilera era }sikter Erik FitzWilliam From nordmark-request Mon Feb 19 08:36:30 1996 Return-Path: mabe001@posten.se Received: from argus.posten.se (argus.posten.se [192.121.54.163]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id IAA08469 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:36:24 +0100 Received: (from smap@localhost) by argus.posten.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA03957 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:30:14 +0100 Received: from unknown(147.14.7.70) by argus.posten.se via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma003947; Mon Feb 19 08:28:47 1996 Received: from Mats B. ([147.14.52.71]) by info.Posten.SE (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA03737 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:35:25 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:35:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199602190735.IAA03737@info.Posten.SE> X-Sender: mabe001@info.posten.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: mabe001@posten.se (Mats Bergström) Subject: Re: Pennsic L{ger X-Mailer: Status: OR >Hej >Eftersom det verkar vara ganska m}nga fr}n Nordmark som skall }ka till >Pennsic s} undrar jag om det {r n}gra som {r intresserade av att bo i=20 >ett Nordmarksl{ger.=20 Vi Juneborgare som vill =E5ka dit har diskuterat saken. Blir det ett l=E4ger= s=E5=20 vill vi g=E4rna bo d=E4r ocks=E5. Hur som helst vore det kul att veta vilka= fler=20 Nordmarkare det finns och var, s=E5 att vi kan rajja runt lite tillsammans. Har alla som skall =E5ka =F6ver och sl=E5ss skaffat sig Nordmarkstabarder?= Det =E4r=20 snyggt och respektingivande att sl=E5ss i samma f=E4rger. /Walderik From nordmark-request Mon Feb 19 16:13:22 1996 Return-Path: K92_SGD@k.kth.se Received: from kth.se (kth.se [130.237.72.201]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id QAA22662 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:13:21 +0100 Received: from chemist.k.kth.se (chemist.k.kth.se [130.237.74.105]) by kth.se (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id QAA20921 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:13:20 +0100 Received: from CHEMIST/SpoolDir by chemist.k.kth.se (Mercury 1.21); 19 Feb 96 16:08:11 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by CHEMIST (Mercury 1.21); 19 Feb 96 16:07:47 +0100 From: "SUSANNE GR-SLUND" Organization: KTH, Kemi To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:07:46 +0100 Subject: Ny emailadress Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01SE) Message-ID: <1C7E9AE292E@chemist.k.kth.se> Status: OR Hej alla pa prathoegen! Kemisektionen pa KTH har aentligen laemnat stenaldern och skaffat en ny mailserver med Pegasus mail-system. Det innebaer att jag har en ny adress: K92_sgd@k.kth.se Det gamla adressen kommer dock att funka parallellt ett ganska bra tag till, dvs tills LINK (kemis stordator) kraschar foer gott. Ha det sa bra! Haelsningar fran Bronia p.s. Det gamla kaera usernamet "Bronia" aer nu ett minne blott. Snyft! d.s. Susanne Graeslund K92_sgd@k.kth.se From nordmark-request Tue Feb 20 08:39:29 1996 Return-Path: masc@sweden.hp.com Received: from hplb.hpl.hp.com (hplb.hpl.hp.com [15.255.59.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id IAA15578 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 08:39:06 +0100 Received: from hpustoix.sweden.hp.com by hplb.hpl.hp.com; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 07:38:58 GMT Received: by hpustoix.sweden.hp.com (1.38.193.5/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA01228; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 08:38:56 +0100 From: Marie Schroder Message-Id: <9602200738.AA01228@hpustoix.sweden.hp.com> Subject: ...silversparrar paa vaeg To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 8:38:55 MET X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.13i] Status: OR Hej! ............nu aer de paa vaeg. Lagda paa laadan idag skall de foerhoppningsvis vara er tillhanda under veckan, rykande faerska med bokslut och lokal foer SKA-Nordmarks aarsmoete istoppat!....vad? Jo, Silversparren alltsaa! M From nordmark-request Tue Feb 20 23:21:39 1996 Return-Path: eva@ebnilsson.pp.se Received: from kilkenny.tip.net (kilkenny.tip.net [192.36.73.16]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id XAA06407 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:21:38 +0100 Received: from [194.218.168.224] (b168224.dial.tip.net [194.218.168.224]) by kilkenny.tip.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA29848 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:23:45 +0100 X-Sender: mx13616@mailbox.tip.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:25:23 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: eva@ebnilsson.pp.se (Eva Nilsson) Subject: nytillkommen Status: OR Jag kan numera svara p=E5 brev. /Mary, drots From nordmark-request Wed Feb 21 09:44:30 1996 Return-Path: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se (mailgate.ericsson.se [130.100.2.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA16215 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:44:25 +0100 From: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from edt02.ericsson.se (edt02.ericsson.se [136.225.9.4]) by mailgate.ericsson.se (8.6.11/1.0) with ESMTP id JAA14716 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:44:21 +0100 Received: from pc-mail.ericsson.se by edt.ericsson.se (PMDF V5.0-5 #13379) id <01I1GYBLU4F4971BR6@edt.ericsson.se> for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:41:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:44 +0100 Subject: Fest i Holmrike To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Message-id: <01I1GYBLV702971BR6@edt.ericsson.se> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Status: OR Ett meddelande till alla fest-sugna: Efter SKA Nordmarks =E5rsm=F6te den 9 Mars kommer det att bli fest i Holmrikes lokal. Kl 19.00 =E4r sagt som h=E5lltid. Det kommer att bli knytis, s=E5 medtag g=E4rna n=E5got gott att =E4ta. =D6l finns att inf=F6rskaffas p=E5 plats. Mer information kommer p=E5 =E5rsm=F6tet. Det =E4r t=E4nkt att det skall vara en fest i dr=E4kt, men det =E4r ingen katastrof om man kommer utan. Sprid g=E4rna det h=E4r till alla som kan t=E4nkas vara intresserade. V=E4lkomna! /Gilliam B. From nordmark-request Wed Feb 21 15:19:56 1996 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA22748 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:19:54 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id PAA05619; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:27:50 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: masc@sweden.hp.com Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: ...silversparrar paa vaeg Date: 21 Feb 1996 15:11:10 GMT Message-Id: <2588864510.120781015@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Som vanligt tackar kr|nik|ren distribut|ren och |vriga frim{rksnarkomaner f|r punktligt och bra jobb! Tora PS N{sta Sparre beh|ver texter och bilder DESPERAT! (b}da delarna) Har inga annonser, har inga inl{gg, har inga artiklar, har inga balla eventbilder.... och ni f}r g{rna bidra till poesisidan med SCA-lyrik eller tidstypisk dito (Shakespeare o co l{r inte ta royalty!) DS From nordmark-request Wed Feb 21 15:45:51 1996 Return-Path: macanus@mailhost.lysator.liu.se Received: from lysander.lysator.liu.se (mailhost.lysator.liu.se [130.236.253.3]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id PAA23398 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:45:49 +0100 Received: from saerimner.rydnet.lysator.liu.se (saerimner.rydnet.lysator.liu.se [192.168.132.218]) by lysander.lysator.liu.se (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28452 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:45:46 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960221144541.0066641c@pop.lysator.liu.se> X-Sender: macanus@pop.lysator.liu.se X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:45:41 +0100 To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Magnus Lindskog Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kungarikets_Silversparre_p=E5_WWW?= Status: OR Detta meddelande g=E4ller den Silversparre som utges av Kungariket Nordmark. Silversparren finns numera p=E5 WWW. Adressen =E4r: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~macanus/sparren.html -Magnus Lindskog (Roland von Boitzenburg), Konungariket Nordmarks kr=F6nik= =F6r. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Magnus Lindskog Alsattersgatan 13 A 34 S-582 51 Linkoping Sweden Phone:+46-13-260702, 0707-981212 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From nordmark-request Mon Feb 26 07:07:12 1996 Return-Path: sirjon@netcom.com Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (netcom19.netcom.com [192.100.81.132]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id HAA15172 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:07:10 +0100 Received: by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id WAA13418; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:04:21 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:04:21 -0800 (PST) From: John Edgerton Subject: 30yc Archery Masterwork Judging To: kingdom mailing lists , antir@mail.orst.edu, archery@mav.com, artemisia@umt.umt.edu, atlantia-l@netcom.com, calontir@unl.edu, mckay_michael.darkwood@atalla.tandem.com, meridies@his.uab.edu, Nordmark@ludd.luth.se, Northshield@stolaf.edu, outlands@alcor.unm.edu, sca-caid@ecst.csuchico.edu, sca-east@world.std.com, sca-lochac@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au, sca-middle@dnaco.net, sca-west@ecst.csuchico.edu, sirjon@netcom.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR ARCHERY MASTERWORK JUDGING Attention crafters of bows, arrows and other archery gear! You have the opportunity to compete against other crafters in your field from many kingdoms, exchange ideas, learn more about your craft, and gain recognition for your skill and knowledge. The Thirty Year Celebration will host the first of the Archery Masterwork Judgings. The competition will recognize excellence in several categories: Longbows Crossbows Arrows (including quarrels) Other period-style archery gear (arrowheads, quivers, bracers, composite recurves, etc.) The entries will be on display before judging, so that other archers and the populace may view them. Entrants will present their own work before the judges and fellow entrants. The judges will question entrants and make written comments on each entry. Final results and winners will be announced during Thirty Year Celebration and notice of the winners will also be sent to the kingdom newsletters. Volunteers will be needed to help with the judging. Entrants may submit items for judging as well as participate in the judging process. Inform the judges-in-charge at the event if you are interested in helping to judge this contest. For further information contact : HL Alisdair MacEwan, c/o David Balbirona, 1213 Whatcom St. #120, Bellingham, WA 98226. From nordmark-request Tue Feb 27 09:16:29 1996 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA15377 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:16:28 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id JAA03019; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:25:53 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Tidrik! Date: 27 Feb 1996 08:53:00 GMT Message-Id: <65535.150589241@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hall} Tidrik? Jag har tappat din e-adress. Skriv den till mig igen, sn{lla. Tack, Tora anna_frimodig@ssco.se From nordmark-request Wed Feb 28 09:18:53 1996 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA13343 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:18:52 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id JAA02877; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:28:17 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: 2 nya Sparrebesked Date: 28 Feb 1996 09:15:04 GMT Message-Id: <4134125435.155861246@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hej allihop 1. Ni som lusl{st er f|rra Sparre vet att det {r ny deadline, ni andra f}r veta det h{r. Vi har flyttat fram deadline till den 10:e varje m}nad. NYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTTNYTT 2. Sparren har f}tt ett f|rsiktigt go ahead f|r mindre annonser och sponsrade sidor. Jag }terkommer med priser och specialuppgifter, men du som {r intresserad kan h|ra av dig till mig bums och boka en plats! Sprid g{rna den h{r informationen utanf|r NMLens gr{nser, tack! F|r e-post g{ller fortfarande kl 12.00 den dagen, m}svingar eller andra bra substitut f|r nordiska tecken (har inte MIME {n tyv{rr, men kanske snart!) och f|r vanlig post n{rmaste vardagsutdelning, disketter som g}r att |ppna i Word 5.0 f|r Mac (PC diskett inget problem, men Word 6.0=problem) CDskivor med bilder eller text f|r Mac eller foto CD. Sparren vill g{rna att just du skriver om vikingatida b}tar, 1200-talshattar, 1500-talskrig eller Elisabethanska danser eller n}got annat som just du vet mycket om, men inte vi andra! H|r av er! Tora From nordmark-request Wed Feb 28 11:53:32 1996 Return-Path: frithiof@akka.kemi.uu.se Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.kemi.uu.se [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA16418 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:53:31 +0100 Received: by akka.kemi.uu.se id AA15556 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:41:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:41:29 +0100 From: Sven Noren Message-Id: <199602281041.AA15556@akka.kemi.uu.se> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Adress? Status: OR F|rl}t missbruket av allm{nt kommunikationsmedel, men jag beh|ver emailadressen till riddar Sven (mka Robert Hedstr|m). Svara g{rna direkt till mig: Sven.Noren@kemi.uu.se From nordmark-request Wed Feb 28 15:16:22 1996 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA21057 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:16:20 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id PAA03067; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:25:44 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: adress som inte funkar Date: 28 Feb 1996 12:36:43 GMT Message-Id: <306696189.156651962@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hej SysOp! N{r man skriver till nordmark nu f}r man alltid tillbaka en adress med fel p} detta {r beskedet: Your message to the following recipients was undeliverable: rbergeli@capcc.cap.se=20 Ville bara meddela. Tora From nordmark-request Wed Feb 28 17:50:24 1996 Return-Path: xordph@ludd.luth.se Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id RAA24846 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:50:23 +0100 From: "L. J|rgen \hman" Received: (xordph@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id RAA19011 for nordmark; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:50:02 +0100 Message-Id: <199602281650.RAA19011@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Lista |ver NMLare. To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:50:02 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR Hej hopp ! Eftersom det har varit mycket fr}gor om e-mail adresser s} postar jag nu en ny och b{ttre lista |ver vilka som {r med p} NMLen. Jag vill g{rna veta om n}tt saknas eller {r fel. /Strybj|rn, N}jd. TIPS !!! Spara denna lista s} slipper ni fr}ga. :-D ========================================================================== Roger Antonijev Jakob M|rke roa@jonkoping.mail.telia.com Rickard Bergelius William Bielke rbergeli@capcc.cap.se Mats Bergstr|m Walderik Birgherson Gr|ne mabe001@posten.se Paul Bodin Trygge paul-bod@dsv.su.se Samantha Bonnevier Rauni Thrainnsdotter Ulvtand sam@ts.umu.se Morgan Broman Morgan de Grey mabr@norell.se Bernt Budde Bernhard Illrede bernt.budde@udac.uu.se Stefan Burstr|m Valter Henriksson J{rf bran@solace.mh.se Christer Carlsson Kristiern Gunnarsson cc@sics.se Rusty Cole Hrolf Rustig rcole@informix.com Jonas Degerstr|m Edmund of Dewsbury jonas.degerstrom@riksdagen.se Marcus Drotz Rangwald af Nor masdrz95@student.umu.se ]ke Eldberg William de Corbie vader@csd.uu.se Leif Euren Peder Klingrode leeu@celsiustech.se Peter Forsberg Tidrik Stenbj|rnsson Peter.Forsberg@salcom.se Jan Frelin Harabanar Hugilaikir jan.frelin@pub.mil.se Anna Frimodig Tora Adilsdotter Od Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Mats Gustafsson Mar mats.gustafsson@mail.ukfdata.umea.se Susanne Gr{slund Bronia M}nsdotter Horn K92_sgd@k.kth.se Robert Hedstr|m Sven Gunnarsson rohe@vas.prevas.se Tero Heikkinen Juhana Maununpoika Kivisuo tero.j.heikkinen@hut.fi Marcus Hellqvist Philip McBride Marcus_Hellqvist@hermes.ics.lu.se Ove Jansson Olaus J{rv ove@ludd.luth.se Anders Johansson - BI93AJ75@lthvov.vsek.lth.se Jan Johansson Skarphedinn Krummf|ttur redbaron@ludd.luth.se Lars-G|ran Jonsson - lars-goran.jonsson@upp.pharmacia.se J|rgen J|nsson Jurgen Danske jorgen.jonsson@umf.umu.se Jokke Kaksonen Celestinus mac Criohmthainn jkaksonen@unda.fi Andreas Karlsson Brynolf Haraldsson d4andka@dtek.chalmers.se Atte Kinnula Llwyd ap Cadwaladr marten@rieska.oulu.fi Jannis Koukoutsas Petrc Monomachos JannKouk@sth.carta.se Martin Krook Giles MacLachlan Martin.Krook@era.ericsson.se Fredrik Kurtson Archibald Fredrik.Kurtson@allgon.se Matthew Larsen - mjl@rational.com P{r Leijonhufvud UlfR Ketilson par.leijonhufvud@k1h.ki.se Antti Leino Pietari Pentinpoika Uv leino@cc.helsinki.fi Markus Lindfors - e5markus@etek.chalmers.se Magnus Lindskog Roland von Boitzenburg macanus@lysator.liu.se Eva Nilsson Mary Wood eva@ebnilsson.pp.se Sven Noren Frithiof Sigvardsson Sk{gge Sven.Noren@Kemi.UU.SE Jonas Nywall Erik Sigurdsson Vatthe Jonas.Nywall@adb.ds.sll.se Anders Olsson Gilliam Blackhorn era.eraanol@memo.ericsson.se Ann Olsson Rousset Emilia Olsdotter Olsson1@routsip.univ-tlse1.fr Christer Romson Lindorm Christer.Romson@abc.se Greg Rose Hossein Ali Qomi greg@bronze.lcs.mit.edu Lennart Ryman Kettilmund Gislason lennart.ryman@nordiska.uu.se Vicki Schalin Deirdre ni Bheirne unicorn@csd.uu.se Marie Schr|der Marie d'Alise-Saint-Reine masc@hpustoix.sweden.hp.com Ingela Sj|mark Ingrid S|mmerska ingela@ludd.luth.se Einar Skatt Floris van Montfort d94einsk@isy.liu.se Ralph Snel Claudwick van Naerdinckhove ralph@astro.lu.se Janna Spanne Catrin Gwynystlum janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se H}kan Sundquist Erik Fitz William will@ludd.luth.se Jonas S|derquist Aodhan macNiall a95jonso@ikm.his.se Peter T|rlind Karl Alrune fafner@ludd.luth.se Annika Waern Katherin Jonsdotter annika@sics.se Ove ]berg Prothall Wolfbane ovea@sweden.hp.com Marianne ]sblom Demaret Estridh Tyrheim Bengtsdotter marianne.demaret@ped.gu.se L. J|rgen \hman Styrbj|rn Halte xordph@ludd.luth.se U. J|rgen \hman Ulf Mj|dtunga bubba@ludd.luth.se Gunnar \stlund Johan Knutsson kalix@ludd.luth.se - Leonora d93marfr@und.ida.liu.se Katarina - kwalker@medinfo.rochester.edu - Aleydis van Vilvorde eandersson@nn.apc.org From nordmark-request Wed Feb 28 18:33:46 1996 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id SAA25858 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:33:44 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id SAA28582; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:43:08 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: Sven.Noren@Kemi.UU.SE Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Adress? Date: 28 Feb 1996 17:32:32 GMT Message-Id: <65534.157662440@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hallo d{r Sven har: rohe@vas.prevas.se Moss, Tora From nordmark-request Thu Feb 29 09:10:11 1996 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA12452 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:10:10 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id JAA25893; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:19:37 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: VIRUSVARNING fr}n min bas Date: 29 Feb 1996 08:41:57 GMT Message-Id: <1759969278.160982761@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Det h{r d|k upp p} min bas i morse. Se upp, verkar det som! Tora FYI- a virus warning from my friends on the other side of the pond: > SUBJECT: VIRUSES--IMPORTANT PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY > There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If > you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times", > DO NOT read the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the > messages below. Some miscreant is sending e-mail under the title > "Good Times" nation wide, if you get anything like this, > DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a virus that rewrites your hard > drive, obliterating anything on it. > ************************************************************* > WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of > major importance to any regular user of the Internet. > Apparently a new computer virus has been engineered by a user > of AMERICA ON LINE that is unparalleled in its destructive > capability. > Other more well-known viruses such as "Stoned", "Airwolf" and > "Michaelangelo" pale in comparison to the prospects of this > newest creation by a warped mentality. What makes this virus so > terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no program needs to be > exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It can be spread > through the existing e-mail systems of the Internet. Once a computer > is infected, one of several things can happen. If the computer > contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If the > program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in > an nth-complexity infinite binary loop-which can severely damage the > processor if left running that way too long. > ============================================= > FYI- a virus warning from my friends south of the border: > SUBJECT: VIRUSES--IMPORTANT PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY > There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If > you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times", > DO NOT read the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the > messages below. Some miscreant is sending e-mail under the title > "Good Times" nation wide, if you get anything like this, > DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a virus that rewrites your hard > drive, obliterating anything on it. > ************************************************************* > WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of > major importance to any regular user of the Internet. > Apparently a new computer virus has been engineered by a user > of AMERICA ON LINE that is unparalleled in its destructive > capability. > Other more well-known viruses such as "Stoned", "Airwolf" and > "Michaelangelo" pale in comparison to the prospects of this > newest creation by a warped mentality. What makes this virus so > terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no program needs to be > exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It can be spread > through the existing e-mail systems of the Internet. Once a computer > is infected, one of several things can happen. If the computer > contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If the > program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in > an nth-complexity infinite binary loop-which can severely damage the > processor if left running that way too long. > ============================================= From nordmark-request Thu Feb 29 09:29:46 1996 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA12837 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:29:45 +0100 Received: from janna.kansli.lth.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA07163; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:29:58 +0100 X-Sender: klth-jsp@pop.lu.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:01:24 +0100 To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se (Janna G Spanne) Subject: Re: VIRUSVARNING Status: OR >Det h{r d|k upp p} min bas i morse. Se upp, verkar det som! >Tora > > FYI- a virus warning from my friends on the other side of the pond: > >> SUBJECT: VIRUSES--IMPORTANT PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY > >> There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If >> you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times", >> DO NOT read the message, ... Iofs bra att folk =E4r uppm=E4rksamma p=E5 virus - men Good Times =E4r en s= =E5 kallad "r=E5tta i pizzan", dvs en vandringss=E4gen. Det finns ett antal s=E5dana p= =E5 Internet, den intresserade kan s=E4kert hitta fler under "urban folklore" n=E5gonstans p=E5 Webben. /Catrin From nordmark-request Thu Feb 29 09:32:46 1996 Return-Path: parlei@ki.se Received: from ki.se (mbox.ki.se [130.237.207.77]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA12896 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:32:44 +0100 Received: by ki.se id AA08448 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:33:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:33:18 +0200 (METDST) From: Par Leijonhufvud Sender: Par Leijonhufvud Reply-To: Par Leijonhufvud Subject: Re: VIRUSVARNING fr}n min bas Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-Reply-To: <1759969278.160982761@ssco.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: OR Nej, Detta =E4r en gammal vandrings=E4gen. Man kan inte f=E5 ett virus genom att= =20 l=E4sa ett email. D=E4rtill s=E5 finns det en del saker i varningen som=20 indikerar att det =E4r falsk: det st=E5r inget om f=F6r vilka=20 datorer/operativsystem viruset =E4r "avsett", och inte heller n=E5got datum= =20 p=E5 varningen, utan bara "last wedensday".=20 Den som vill l=E4sa mer om "Good Times" kan titta p=E5 http://www-mcb.ucdavis.edu/info/virus.html, d=E4r en hel del mer=20 djuplodande information st=E5r att finna. /P=E4r-UlfR Par Leijonhufvud=09=09 par.leijonhufvud@labtek.ki.se=20 Shell to DOS...Come in DOS, do you copy? Shell to DOS... From nordmark-request Thu Feb 29 09:41:20 1996 Return-Path: jonas.degerstrom@riksdagen.se Received: from mail.riksdagen.se (gatekeeper.riksdagen.se [194.52.83.21]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id JAA13071 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:41:19 +0100 From: jonas.degerstrom@riksdagen.se Received: from TFSSMTP by mail.riksdagen.se with smtp (Smail3.1.29.0 #2) id m0ts3nk-0005uXC; Thu, 29 Feb 96 09:33 MET Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 9:50:52 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se, Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (AnnaFrimodig) Subject: Svar: VIRUSVARNING fr}n min bas MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway Status: OR Oj! =20 Det h=E4r m=E5ste vara den 10:de g=E5ngen jag f=E5r den h=E4r varninge= n..f=F6rsta=20 g=E5ngen var en sis=E5d=E4r 6 m=E5n sedan. Sannolikeheten att detta virus existerar =E4r ungef=E4r lika stor som=20= att=20 att Giles skulle tacka nej till en hela whisky.. :) =20 Tack f=F6r varningen =E4nd=E5 =20 M V H =20 =20 /Jonas aka Edmund ______________________________Svarsavskiljare _____________________________= _____ =C4rende: VIRUSVARNING fr}n min bas F=F6rfattare: PC:Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se(AnnaFrimodig) p=E5 INTERNET Datum: 1996-02-29 09:29 Det h{r d|k upp p} min bas i morse. Se upp, verkar det som!=20 Tora =20 =20 =20 FYI- a virus warning from my friends on the other side of the pond: =20= =20 =20 > SUBJECT: VIRUSES--IMPORTANT PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY =20= =20 =20 > There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If=20 > you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times", =20 > DO NOT read the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the=20 > messages below. Some miscreant is sending e-mail under the title =20 > "Good Times" nation wide, if you get anything like this, =20 > DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a virus that rewrites your hard =20 > drive, obliterating anything on it. =20 > ************************************************************* =20 > WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS =20 =20 > The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of =20 > major importance to any regular user of the Internet. =20 > Apparently a new computer virus has been engineered by a user =20 > of AMERICA ON LINE that is unparalleled in its destructive =20 > capability. =20 =20 > Other more well-known viruses such as "Stoned", "Airwolf" and =20 > "Michaelangelo" pale in comparison to the prospects of this =20 > newest creation by a warped mentality. What makes this virus so =20 > terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no program needs to be =20 > exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It can be spread =20 > through the existing e-mail systems of the Internet. Once a computer =20 > is infected, one of several things can happen. If the computer =20 > contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If the=20 > program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in=20 > an nth-complexity infinite binary loop-which can severely damage the =20 > processor if left running that way too long. =20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 > FYI- a virus warning from my friends south of the border: =20= =20 =20 > SUBJECT: VIRUSES--IMPORTANT PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY =20= =20 =20 > There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If=20 > you receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times", =20 > DO NOT read the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the=20 > messages below. Some miscreant is sending e-mail under the title =20 > "Good Times" nation wide, if you get anything like this, =20 > DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a virus that rewrites your hard =20 > drive, obliterating anything on it. =20 > ************************************************************* =20 > WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS =20 =20 > The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of =20 > major importance to any regular user of the Internet. =20 > Apparently a new computer virus has been engineered by a user =20 > of AMERICA ON LINE that is unparalleled in its destructive =20 > capability. =20 =20 > Other more well-known viruses such as "Stoned", "Airwolf" and =20 > "Michaelangelo" pale in comparison to the prospects of this =20 > newest creation by a warped mentality. What makes this virus so =20 > terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no program needs to be =20 > exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It can be spread =20 > through the existing e-mail systems of the Internet. Once a computer =20 > is infected, one of several things can happen. If the computer =20 > contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If the=20 > program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in=20 > an nth-complexity infinite binary loop-which can severely damage the =20 > processor if left running that way too long. =20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 From nordmark-request Thu Feb 29 09:51:08 1996 Return-Path: xordph@ludd.luth.se Received: from star.ludd.luth.se (star.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.53]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id JAA13312 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:51:06 +0100 From: "L. J|rgen \hman" Received: (xordph@localhost) by star.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id JAA03523 for nordmark; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:52:50 +0100 Message-Id: <199602290852.JAA03523@star.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Re: VIRUSVARNING fr}n min bas To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:52:48 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <1759969278.160982761@ssco.se> from "Anna Frimodig" at Feb 29, 96 08:41:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > Det h{r d|k upp p} min bas i morse. Se upp, verkar det som! > Tora > > SUCK inte en gång till... /Styrbjörn From nordmark-request Thu Feb 29 10:02:59 1996 Return-Path: jkaksonen@unda.fi Received: from unda.fi (unda.fi [193.64.23.5]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA13631 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:02:58 +0100 Received: from titan.unda.fi by unda.fi (5.65c/94.2.11-MAI) id AA22429; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:08:03 +0200 Received: from nipsu.unda.fi by titan.unda.fi (4.1/MAI-94.2.12) id AA19403; Thu, 29 Feb 96 11:02:55 +0200 Received: by nipsu.unda.fi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA00368; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:03:14 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:03:14 +0200 From: jkaksonen@unda.fi (Jokke Kaksonen) Message-Id: <199602290903.LAA00368@nipsu.unda.fi> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: VIRUSVARNING fr}n min bas X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Status: OR Tack foer varningen fast virusen inte var riktig. Det aer tanken som raeknas. Celestinus From nordmark-request Thu Feb 29 11:36:17 1996 Return-Path: frithiof@akka.kemi.uu.se Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.kemi.uu.se [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA15790 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:36:15 +0100 Received: by akka.kemi.uu.se id AA22441 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:23:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:23:53 +0100 From: Sven Noren Message-Id: <199602291023.AA22441@akka.kemi.uu.se> To: Par.Leijonhufvud@labtek.ki.se Subject: Re: VIRUSVARNING fr}n min bas Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Status: OR >Detta =E4r en gammal vandrings=E4gen. Just det, den gick p} SCA-reformlistan f|r n}got }r sedan. > Man kan inte f=E5 ett virus genom att= >l=E4sa ett email. Det l{r ska g}, om man f}r en WORD-fil via email som inneh}ller ett "script" som fungerar som ett virus och aktiveras n{r filen |ppnas. [r det n}gon av de mer f|rfarna datanissarna p} n{tet som kan bekr{fta eller dementera detta? Frithiof the friendly herald (Sven.Noren@kemi.UU.SE) From nordmark-request Thu Feb 29 12:26:46 1996 Return-Path: <@nomina.lu.se:ralph@astro.lu.se> Received: from nomina.lu.se (Nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id MAA17215 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:26:44 +0100 Received: from nastol.astro.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA18588; Thu, 29 Feb 96 12:26:59 +0100 Received: by nastol.astro.lu.se(1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA140753202; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:26:42 +0100 From: Ralph Snel Message-Id: <199602291126.AA140753202@nastol.astro.lu.se> Subject: Good Times To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:26:42 MET X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 111.1] Status: OR :) From nordmark-request Thu Feb 29 14:02:16 1996 Return-Path: xordph@ludd.luth.se Received: from max.ludd.luth.se (max.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.52]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id OAA19375 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:02:16 +0100 From: "L. J|rgen \hman" Received: (xordph@localhost) by max.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA18058 for nordmark; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:01:31 +0100 Message-Id: <199602291301.OAA18058@max.ludd.luth.se> Subject: SURIV To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:01:28 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199602291023.AA22441@akka.kemi.uu.se> from "Sven Noren" at Feb 29, 96 11:23:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: OR > > >Detta =E4r en gammal vandrings=E4gen. > > Just det, den gick p} SCA-reformlistan f|r n}got }r sedan. > > > Man kan inte f=E5 ett virus genom att= > >l=E4sa ett email. > > Det l{r ska g}, om man f}r en WORD-fil via email som inneh}ller > ett "script" som fungerar som ett virus och aktiveras n{r filen |ppnas. > [r det n}gon av de mer f|rfarna datanissarna p} n{tet som kan > bekr{fta eller dementera detta? > > > Frithiof the friendly herald (Sven.Noren@kemi.UU.SE) > Japp, det finns virus som spriders sig via/m.h.a. WORD-filer mm. [nnu en anledning att h}lla sig borta fr}n word, pyttemjuk, pc, mac och annan skit... /Styrbj|rn, seri|s datanisse. From nordmark-request Thu Feb 29 14:59:57 1996 Return-Path: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se Received: from mail.swip.net (mail.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA21274 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 14:59:55 +0100 Received: by mail.swip.net with UUCP (8.6.8/3.01) id PAA21577; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:09:21 +0100 From: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se (Anna Frimodig) Reply-To: Anna_Frimodig@ssco.se To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: falskt larm? Date: 29 Feb 1996 13:02:02 GMT Message-Id: <14282718.161921010@ssco.se> Organization: ssco Status: OR Hall} igen. Varningen om virus verkar vara ett falsklarm. Enligt flera har jag nu h|rt att det {r en gammal bluff fr}n n}gra glada studenter i USA. Men man kan ju se upp f|r s{kerhets skull. Tora