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Hejsan,
Jag såg att Raude har startat en diskussion som rör mitt ämbete.

Frank Isaksson & Kristin Andersson wrote:
> 
> Eftersom jag anser att en
> medlemstidnings främsta uppgift skall vara att hålla sammman och stärka
> en grupp(förening), så har jag också framhållit vikten av att ha med de
> lokala chatelainernas adresser tillsammans med gruppernas dortsar(som
> det var på den gamla goda tiden)...

Jag håller med dig Raude. Även om jag inte kan minnas att chatelainernas adresser stod i 
Sparren (fast jag kan ju ha fel)
 
> Detta var något jag som dåvarande chatelain fann var gott. Jag fungerar
> nu som drots för vår grupp och upptäcker att, många av de männinskor som
> ringer för att se vad vi är för några konstiga människor, har oftast
> hittat vårt telefonnummer i just "sparren". 

Så är det nog. Dessutom får jag en massa samtal av intresserade personer som helst borde ha gått direkt till 
den lokala chatelainen. Det är ju där den verkliga introduktionen av föreningen kan ske. Det är svårt, för att 
inte säga omöjligt, att göra en vettig introduktion till den här föreningen med bara en infolapp (inget fel med 
dem men dom skall användas till det dom är bra på) eftersom det finns så mycket olika saker man kan tänkas 
gölra och många olika sätt att se på föreningen. Nästan alla som är med har sin lill aegna orsak. Ta bara 
exemplet med de som strävar efter korrekthet kontra dom som bara vill festa.

> Jag har även mina misstankar att vi (i alla falll i Juneborg)
> har tappat både en och annan potentiell medlem, just för att dom fått
> ringa och prata med en förvirrad drots(mig), istället för en förberedd
> chatelain. Menar nu inte att drotsar inte kan informera om föreningen,
> men jag är ganska säker på att drotsarna ute landet är oftast mer
> upptagna med annat än vad chatelainerna är...

Det är en av anledningarna till att jag inte tycker om konstruktionen som många grupper har där det är samma 
person som är både drotts och chatelain. Det är också så att dom grupperna som har det så är också dom grupper 
som har det svårast och går sämst (generellt). 
Uppmaning: Se till att din grupp skaffar en fungerande chatelain.

> Dessutom tycker jag nog att chatelainen är en av de viktigaste posterna
> i grupperna, så det så!

Hurra! Fler än jag har sett ljuset!
 
> Dessutom vill jag stämma in med herr Peders fina Vivant, för den gamla
> och för den nya: VIVANT! VIVANT! VIVANT!        /RÖDE, JUNEBORG


VIVANT VIVANT VIVANT
(och lycka till)


mvh Walderik B Gröne
Överchatelan


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Gröne här igen:


Janna G Spanne wrote:
> 
> >... Eftersom jag anser att en
> >medlemstidnings främsta uppgift skall vara att hålla sammman och stärka
> >en grupp(förening), så har jag också framhållit vikten av att ha med de
> >lokala chatelainernas adresser tillsammans med gruppernas dortsar(som
> >det var på den gamla goda tiden)...
> 
> Instämmer.
> Visst får man vara försiktig med utrymmet, eftersom tryckta sidor kostar
> pengar. Däremot får man inte låta "snålheten bedra visheten". Om vi nu har
> ett ämbete vars jobb det är att informera och hålla kontakt med potentiella
> nya medlemmar, så tycker jag att det ligger en självmotsägelse i att inte
> sätta ut chatelanernas adresser i vårt främsta kontaktorgan.

Jag håller med dig. Vad skönt det är med en diskussion där alla är ense!
Dessutom har ju en hel del grupper samma person som båda ämbetena, så det behöver inte bli så dyrt :-)

> Däremot så besitter jag inga mystiska kontakter eller insikter. Jag tänker
> sätta ut chatelanernas adresser i den mån jag får dem, men hinner inte
> ringa runt och jaga dem.
> Det kommer ett utskick på papper till alla drotsar någon gång innan den 10
> november, där jag ska presentera mig som krönikör och be om bl a just den
> här uppgiften. Förresten, Nordmarks chatelan kanske har en lista?

Jodå. Jag har en lista. Den ligger tyvärr i Windows-kort-format (eller vad den urkiga databasgrejen heter). 
Jag lovar dock att så fort som möjligt skicka in den som ren textfil. Jag måste ändå konvertera min lista, 
eftersom formatet jag har nu är helt för bedrövligt.
Ett problem är dock att en del grupper inte har hört av sig på flera år. Fiathundria har t ex inte lämnat in en 
rapport på tre år. Då kan jag ju omöjligt hålla koll på vem som är chatelain. Förhoppningsvis är den adressen 
jag har till drottsen rätt i alla fall. Den stod i Sparren.

> /Catrin

  /Gröne

> 
> PS: Förresten vill jag gärna ha fler åsikter om Sparrens innehåll och
> uppläggning, fast jag *inte* lovar att rätta mig efter dem alla!!!

Bra. Det kan vara många som försöker sätta sig på krönikören och tala om hur tidningen skall vara, så man kan 
behöva lite skin på näsan.


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Öh, du Gröne! Jag tror inte "Fiathundrialand" har nån "Chatte". Det är
väl gruppen som Fandral é med i va? I så fall har dom en drots och en
bunt fighters... Det é väl deras stil antar jag!/RÖDE

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Hej
"N=E5gra g=E5nger" =E4r nog vad jag vet bara en g=E5ng och svaret =E4r n=
u som d=E5 att=20
Lady Mary har ansvaret f=F6r adressidan och hon vill _inte_ att den ska =
vara=20
mer =E4n en sida. Redan nu =E4r typsnittet p=E5 den sidan 8 punkter....
Say no more, say no more!
f=F6rklarar eder Tora
 ----------
>Fr=E5n: Frank Isaksson & Kristin Andersson
>Till: nordmark
>Ang=E5ende: Sparren d=D5!
>Datum: den 31 oktober 1996 18.06
>
>Tjena! Det h=E4r brevet =E4r framf=F6rallt riktat till v=E5r nye kr=F6n=
ik=F6r! Tack
>f=F6r att du tar en s=E5 h=E4r ansvarsfylld och "nerklankad" arbetsuppg=
ift.
>Hoppas att du kommer att finna dit =E4mbete angen=E4mt och att du lycka=
s
>g=F6ra ett bra jobb.
>
>Anledningen till att jag inte skickar det h=E4r brevet direkt till dig =
=E4r
>att jag tror att fler kanske har en massa bizzarra =E5sikter i samma =E4=
mne
>och det vore ju synd att inte f=E5 lufta dem...
>
>Jag har varit i kontakt med Tora n=E5gra g=E5nger, framf=F6rallt ang=E5=
ende
>adresslistan som finns med i varje nummer. Eftersom jag anser att en
>medlemstidnings fr=E4msta uppgift skall vara att h=E5lla sammman och st=
=E4rka
>en grupp(f=F6rening), s=E5 har jag ocks=E5 framh=E5llit vikten av att h=
a med de
>lokala chatelainernas adresser tillsammans med gruppernas dortsar(som
>det var p=E5 den gamla goda tiden)...
>
>Detta var n=E5got jag som d=E5varande chatelain fann var gott. Jag fung=
erar
>nu som drots f=F6r v=E5r grupp och uppt=E4cker att, m=E5nga av de m=E4n=
ninskor som
>ringer f=F6r att se vad vi =E4r f=F6r n=E5gra konstiga m=E4nniskor, har=
 oftast
>hittat v=E5rt telefonnummer i just "sparren". Jag m=E4rker =E4ven att
>chatelainen i v=E5r grupp knappast har n=E5got att g=F6ra av just samma=

>anledning. Jag har =E4ven mina misstankar att vi (i alla falll i Junebo=
rg)
>har tappat b=E5de en och annan potentiell medlem, just f=F6r att dom f=E5=
tt
>ringa och prata med en f=F6rvirrad drots(mig), ist=E4llet f=F6r en f=F6=
rberedd
>chatelain. Menar nu inte att drotsar inte kan informera om f=F6reningen=
,
>men jag =E4r ganska s=E4ker p=E5 att drotsarna ute landet =E4r oftast m=
er
>upptagna med annat =E4n vad chatelainerna =E4r...
>
>Dessutom tycker jag nog att chatelainen =E4r en av de viktigaste poster=
na
>i grupperna, s=E5 det s=E5!
>
>Dessutom vill jag st=E4mma in med herr Peders fina Vivant, f=F6r den ga=
mla
>och f=F6r den nya: VIVANT! VIVANT! VIVANT!    /R=D6DE, JUNEBORG
>
>


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Frimodig, Anna (ANNAF) wrote:
> 
> Hej
> "Några gånger" är nog vad jag vet bara en gång och svaret är nu som då att
> Lady Mary har ansvaret för adressidan och hon vill _inte_ att den ska vara
> mer än en sida. Redan nu är typsnittet på den sidan 8 punkter....
> Say no more, say no more!
> förklarar eder Tora
>  ----------

Jo, då! Visst är det "några gånger"! Fast vanligt brev med porto och
handskriven text kanske inte smäller lika högt som e-mail nu för tiden?

För att precisera: 
En(1) gång i början av din(annas)ämbetsperiod (I litet enkelt brev
angående drotsbyte i Juneborg).
En(1) gång nyligen, i samband med att jag bad dig(anna) att föra in min
e-mail adress tillsammans med mina övriga uppgifter.
samt En(1) gång i öppet e-post brev till gammal och ny krönikör(i går
eller nåt!).

Detta borde bli... få se nu... 1+1+1=8? Nej 3!!! Alltså NÅGRA!

(fast ska jag vara ärlig så är det inte så noga och jag ber om ursäkt om
jag på något sätt har verkat gnälla på ert ämbete, detta var absolut ine
meningen!)						
						/Röde, Juneborg

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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 14:38:11 +0100
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Tjena, Röde här! Har inte haft e-mail så länge, men nu é det dags att
skicka första mailet till en compuserve... Men hur gör man? HJÄLP!!!
						/Röde, Juneborg

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I know a number of people are considering going to Estrella, I am sending
this as information ! Caid is _not_ showing up for the war. The letter here
explains their Majesties of Caids concerns and reasons for not attending.
So far the event includes Atenveldt and Outlands (I have been in direct
contact with my friends on the Outlands throne) if nothing changes. How
this will affect the event I do not know. Caid is hosting an event of their
own the same weekend, it is also a war.

Their Caidan Majesties letter :

Edric and AlbraKatrine, King and Queen in Caid, and Direk and Arianna,
Crown Prince and Princess, send to Their Noble Cousins, and to the
Populace of the Worlde, greetings and good wishes.  We are minded to lay
forth the reasons that have brought Us to Our current decision regarding
Caidan participation at the Atenveldt event known as the Estrella War.

We affirm that Our decision was not made lightly, but as the result of
careful consideration of the wishes of Our Populace.  We also affirm that
We have many dear friends in Atenveldt, for whom We have high regard, and
will sorely miss seeing in February.

It was Our perception that an interkingdom event would be constituted upon
an agreement of all participating Realms, abiding from year to year, with
annual agreement as to battle scenarios, arts competitions, marshaling,
and safety issues.  It has become evident that this perception is not
shared by the Royalty of Atenveldt.

In the past year, there has been an unprecedented number of letters to Us
expressing the discontent of Our Populace with the policies of the Aten
Crown regarding Estrella.  For this reason, We consulted Our Peers and
Populace.  We learned that an overwhelming majority had no desire to
return to Estrella after so many years of disappointment and discord. 
Once this became obvious, We at Our first opportunity informed Their
Majesties of Atenveldt, as it would have been ignoble to lead them to the
Negotiation Table, when We well knew the mind of Our People was otherwise.

There have been many years of unfortunate misunderstandings.  We have
accepted that Our two kingdoms, Atenveldt and Caid, have different goals
and expectations regarding interkingdom events.  We are sad that Caid can
no longer participate in this event as it is currently constituted.

We wish Our Cousins of Atenveldt well, and continued success in their
future endeavours.  We invite all to attend the first Great Western War
February 12-17, and solicit input as to the War's planning.

We are, as ever, sincerely wishing the best to you and yours,

Edric Rex 				Direk al-Caid
Albra-Katrine Regina			Arianna Lady Caid


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Caid st{ller inte upp till Estrella. Atenveldt har varit stygga.

SCA {r sig likt, tycks det. :-(

William

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> Caid st{ller inte upp till Estrella. Atenveldt har varit stygga.
> 
> SCA {r sig likt, tycks det. :-(
> 
> William
> 

Huvudet p} spiken.

Herr Uffe :) , glad att Willes huvud inte {r p} piken.

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Hej 

Är det någon som har en bra källa till rotting?
Jag läste om någon sorts plast som ersättning för rotting, är det någon som
vet
mer om det ?  i så fall vad heter plasten, var får man tag på den och är
det 
godkännt att använda i Nordmark/Drachenwald.

Erik


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Tjena R=F6de.

>Tjena, R=F6de h=E4r! Har inte haft e-mail s=E5 l=E4nge, men nu =E9 det dags=
 att
>skicka f=F6rsta mailet till en compuserve... Men hur g=F6r man? HJ=C4LP!!!

Exempel:
Adressen till Drachenwalds kr=F6nik=F6r:
100735.3670@compuserve.com

Observera att det skall vara en *punkt* bland nuffrorna och inte ett komma.

Lycka till.

/Gilliam
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Håkan Sundqvist wrote:
> 
> Hej
> 
> Är det någon som har en bra källa till rotting?
> Jag läste om någon sorts plast som ersättning för rotting, är det någon som
> vet
> mer om det ?  i så fall vad heter plasten, var får man tag på den och är
> det
> godkännt att använda i Nordmark/Drachenwald.
> 
> Erik

Jäppan päppan! Du kan höra av dig till "Gotviksfästet Silverfisken" på 
silverfisken@goteborg.mail.telia.com.
Dom har en bra källa till riktig "raket"-rotting. Den funkar finfint!
till er tjänst/Herr Ulfr Raude, Juneborg

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K.J=F6rgen =D6hman s=F6kes ombedes omedelbart kontakta mig p=E5 mitt hem=
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> =C4r det n=E5gon som har en bra k=E4lla till rotting?
> Jag l=E4ste om n=E5gon sorts plast som ers=E4ttning f=F6r rotting, =E4r det =
n=E5gon=20
som
> vet
> mer om det ?  i s=E5 fall vad heter plasten, var f=E5r man tag p=E5 den och =
=E4r
> det
> godk=E4nnt att anv=E4nda i Nordmark/Drachenwald.

P=E5 marskm=F6tet i Pennsic s=E5 pratade vi om substitut f=F6r rotting. Ett ma=
terial=20
som verkade fungera =E4r n=E5gon sorts plastr=F6r som anv=E4nds av r=F6rmokare=
.
Dessa pinnar k=E4ndes n=E4stan precis som rotting. Det h=E5ller tydligen gansk=
a=20
bra, eftersom sv=E4rdet som vi provade var ca 2 =E5r gammalt.
Jag har =E4nnu inte f=E5tt specifikationerna f=F6r plasten, men jag lovar=20
=E5terkomma s=E5 fort jag vet n=E5got mer. R=F6ren s=E4ljs i USA under namnet=20=

Sil-o-flex.

/Gilliam


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>=D6h, du Gr=F6ne! Jag tror inte "Fiathundrialand" har n=E5n "Chatte". Det =
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Gomorron!
H=E4r skrivs en massa p=E5 morgonen, men ingen har presenterat v=E5rt ny=
a=20
st=E5th=E5llarpar. Jag har tyv=E4rr inte deras fullst=E4ndiga namn (var =
inte d=E4r)=20
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t uppgiften!=20
Till dess: Vivant! =E4nd=E5...
Simma lugnt, Tora


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Giliam wrote  96-11-04 15.32:

>> =C4r det n=E5gon som har en bra k=E4lla till rotting?
>> Jag l=E4ste om n=E5gon sorts plast som ers=E4ttning f=F6r rotting, =E4r=20=
det n=E5gon=20
som
>> vet
>> mer om det ?  i s=E5 fall vad heter plasten, var f=E5r man tag p=E5 den=20=
och =E4r
>> det
>> godk=E4nnt att anv=E4nda i Nordmark/Drachenwald.

>P=E5 marskm=F6tet i Pennsic s=E5 pratade vi om substitut f=F6r rotting. Et=
t material=20
>som verkade fungera =E4r n=E5gon sorts plastr=F6r som anv=E4nds av r=F6rmo=
kare..
>Dessa pinnar k=E4ndes n=E4stan precis som rotting. Det h=E5ller tydligen g=
anska=20
>bra, eftersom sv=E4rdet som vi provade var ca 2 =E5r gammalt.
>Jag har =E4nnu inte f=E5tt specifikationerna f=F6r plasten, men jag lovar=20
>=E5terkomma s=E5 fort jag vet n=E5got mer. R=F6ren s=E4ljs i USA under nam=
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>Sil-o-flex.

>/Gilliam


/Jonas

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Frimodig, Anna (ANNAF) wrote:
> 
> Gomorron!
> Här skrivs en massa på morgonen, men ingen har presenterat vårt nya
> ståthållarpar. Jag har tyvärr inte deras fullständiga namn (var inte där)
> och uppdrar därför åt någon som har det att omgående sätta ut uppgiften!
> Till dess: Vivant! ändå...
> Simma lugnt, Tora
Hej på dig och alla andra Nordmarkare,

Jag är faktiskt lite överräskat att ingen har presenterade deras
Excellencer än, så det är lika bra att göra det nu. 

Mina damer och Herrer, deras Excellencer, Ståthållare och Ståthållerinna
av Nordmark:
   Marcus Lawless O'Toole (bäst känd som "Bigge") och tyvärr är jag så
dum och hennes Excellence är rätt så ny till föreningen att jag har nu
glömt vad hon hette(Men hon är super-jätte-schysst och den ny ägare av
mitt huvud). 
Forhoppningsvis kan någon hoppa på och posta hennes namn åt mig.

Men tills dess jag kan bara säga: VIVANT!!! VIVANT!!! VIVANT!!!


Enda (den dumma)


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Hejsan alla Nordmarkare igen,

I en försök att bli lite intelligentare har jag kollat med några som jag
vet var på tourneringen om den nya Ståthållarinnens namn. Vi kom fram
till att vi tror hennes Excellens heter: Katagina de Wilk

Jag hoppas det stämmar annars är jag verkligen i en stor knipa.

Ha det bra,

Enda ( den dumma)


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Hittade p=E5 rialto.
Kanske kan vara av intresse.

/Gilliam

>It looks like, sometime around last Friday, our machine overfilled again,
>and the Rolls crashed once more, wrecking the database again.
>
>Fortunately, things aren't *quite* so bad this time. I have a backup
>from October 3rd. I've restored to that, and I've merged in the changes
>that have been made *since* the data loss, so all entries prior to the
>3rd of October, or since last Friday, should be okay. But we've still
>lost about four weeks of data, unfortunately.
>
>I'm clearly going to have to get into the habit of backing this sucker
>up myself on a regular basis -- that disk partition isn't backed up by
>our systems folks. And at *some* point, I'll hopefully have time to fix
>the underlying problem. (Can anyone give me a quick pointer on how to
>detect a disk-full condition when writing out files in Perl?) But for
>now, I'm afraid that some (by no means all) folks will have to redo
>their entries. Check yours (hundreds are there and okay), and edit or
>re-add it if it's gone...
>
>That URL, again, is:
>
>        http://www.inmet.com/~justin/rolls.html
>
>                              -- Justin
>                                 Who desperately needs the time to redo=20
this
>                                 as a *real* database...


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Hej alla p=E5 Prath=F6gen!

Detta =E4r Umas kr=F6nik=F6r som talar (eh.. skriver)!

Jag har via mitt jobb lyckats korpa =E5t mig en plats p=E5 n=E4tet!=20
Vad l=E4gger man d=E5 in som sin hemsida ?

St=F6rsta fritidsintresset givetvis. :-)

I mitt fall r=E5kar det vara medeltid s=E5 jag g=F6r en Officiell hemsida=
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Ni =E4r alla v=E4lkomna dit att ta en titt. =C4n s=E5 l=E4nge finns det inte=
 s=E5
mycket, men det =E4r bara b=F6rjan.

Adressen =E4r : http://www.umea.se/~mgu/index.htm

Alla v=E4nliga och kreativa f=F6rslag mottages med tacksamhet.

=D6vrigt jag funderar =F6ver n=E4r jag redan =E4r inne p=E5 hemsida-sp=E5ret=
 :=20

Hur m=E5nga andra grupper har gjort en hemsida som finns p=E5 n=E4tet ?

=C4r det inte dags att n=E5gon utses som _officiellt_ ansvarig f=F6r=
 Nordmarks
hemsida.=20
Sista uppdatering i augusti 1995!  (om jag inte missminner mig :-) )


Morsiga h=E4lsningar=20
Mar Arthursson, kr=F6nik=F6r i Uma
som l=E5nat Mats Gustafssons email-konto samt hemsida f=F6r sina =E5sikter.


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>Ni =E4r alla v=E4lkomna dit att ta en titt. =C4n s=E5 l=E4nge finns det=
 inte s=E5
>mycket, men det =E4r bara b=F6rjan.
>
>Adressen =E4r : http://www.umea.se/~mgu/index.htm
>
>Alla v=E4nliga och kreativa f=F6rslag mottages med tacksamhet.

Bra b=F6rjan! Jag saknar dock l=E4nkar till Nordmarks och Drachenwalds=
 hemsida.
Kanske en lista =F6ver de aktiviteter som ni har?

>=D6vrigt jag funderar =F6ver n=E4r jag redan =E4r inne p=E5 hemsida-sp=E5re=
t :=20
>
>Hur m=E5nga andra grupper har gjort en hemsida som finns p=E5 n=E4tet ?

Om jag kommer ih=E5g r=E4tt:
Frostheim, Holmrike, Styringheim och Nordmark.
L=E4nkar till dessa finns under
http://www.users.wineasy.se/gilliam/groups/sweden.htm
Ryktet s=E4ger att Juneborg ocks=E5 =E4r p=E5 g=E5ng.

>=C4r det inte dags att n=E5gon utses som _officiellt_ ansvarig f=F6r=
 Nordmarks
>hemsida.=20
>Sista uppdatering i augusti 1995!  (om jag inte missminner mig :-) )

Sj=E4lv har jag inte kollat p=E5 ett tag, men om det st=E4mmer att den inte=
 =E4r
uppdaterad sedan -95, s=E5 kanske n=E5gon annan borde ta =F6ver den.

/Gilliam
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Anders Olsson       (SCA: Gilliam Blackhorn)
e-mail home: gilliam@wineasy.se
e-mail work: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se


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T=E4nkte bara meddela att Drachenwalds efterfr=E5gade lag nu finns p=E5=
 n=E4tet:
http://www.users.wineasy.se/gilliam/law.htm

/Gilliam
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En liten p=E5minnelse bara.
Inbetalning till tr=E4ningsl=E4gret i Aros f=F6re den 8:e Nov. Sedan blir det=20=

f=F6rseningsavgift.
Och kom ih=E5g... Duke Jade kommer vara d=E4r som l=E4rare (om inget of=F6ruts=
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h=E4nder)!!!

Mera fighting =E5t folket!

/Gilliam (som sj=E4lv borde anm=E4la sig)


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Vad sa man n=E4r man pratade om nutid, hade man  n=E5gra =E5sikter om det?


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Hej hopp !

Frostheims nya uppdaterade, f|rb{ttrade och rykande f{rska hemsida finns nu
tillg{nglig p} :

http://www.ludd.luth.se/frostheim

Vi som har hackat ihop den (Johan, Ingrid & Styrbj|rn) vill g{rna veta vad
ni d{r ute tycker om den.

Ni som har l{nk till Frostheims ur}ldriga och inaktuella hemsida b|r
omedelbart byta ut den mot ovanst}ende URL.

	/Styrbj|rn, N}jd.

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Due to overly optimistic promises of the site owner, we had to 
change the site of the Drachenwald University here in Aarnimetsa.
Please distribute this information to everybody interested!

The new site is called Tapion talo near the city of Salo. There
is no street address. Driving instructions for the new site follow:

	- Salo is situated on the highway #1 between Helsinki
	  and Turku. The distance from Turku is about 60km
	  and from Helsinki about 120km. Go to Salo.
	- From Salo you take the road to Tammisaari.
	- Follow the road to Tammisaari about 6-7km's until you
	  find the exit for Helisnummi--Villila to your left.
	- Exit left and follow the "Tapion talo" and SCA-signs 
	  to the site.

Salo has good railway connections from both Helsinki and Turku.
If you want to arrive by train and need someone to pick you up, 
please contact Lady Hedwig (+358-9-8596447) or Lady Kerttu
(+358-40-5500949). The latter number is for a mobile phone which
is available also during the event.

The site opens Friday 29.11 at 4pm and closes Sunday 1.12. at noon.
Other information published in the Dragon's Tale is still valid.

No beds available, please bring your sleeping bags, ear plugs etc.
And don't forget the feasting mood!

Regards,
		Lady Hedwig Kettuin, the harrowed Autocrat
		Lady Kerttu Roisko, the harrowed helper

-- 
Lea 'LadyBug' Viljanen          		aka Lady Kerttu Roiskoin
Lea.Viljanen@Helsinki.FI

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Hello!

Jag skall =E5ka till Universitet i Aarnim=E4ts=E4 och letar efter en bilpla=
ts.=20

Right me :)

Petrc Monomachos

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Hello there..my computer crashed down this morning and I am not sure if you 
got our message concerning the site change/University. 

Please inform me if you did get it!

For you Nordmarkers..the site situates even closer to Turku than the earlier 
one..and it's easy to take a train from Turku to Salo.
We will pick you up from the Salo railway station if you inform us about you 
arrival time while maiking your reservations to Lady Kerttu.

Cheers/Hedwig

Petrc Monomachos, I can ask you a lift to the site from Turku, is that ok?

the same

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On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Mats Gustafsson wrote:

> Hej alla p=E5 Prath=F6gen!
>=20
> Hur m=E5nga andra grupper har gjort en hemsida som finns p=E5 n=E4tet ?
>=20
> =C4r det inte dags att n=E5gon utses som _officiellt_ ansvarig f=F6r Nord=
marks
> hemsida.=20
> Sista uppdatering i augusti 1995!  (om jag inte missminner mig :-) )
>=20
>=20
> Morsiga h=E4lsningar=20
> Mar Arthursson, kr=F6nik=F6r i Uma


Det =E4r nog dags f=F6r det, n=E5gon som =E4r intresserad?

Jag la upp den och Drachenwalds sida f=F6r l=E4nge sedan lite prelimin=E4rt
tills n=E5gon skulle g=F6ra n=E5got seri=F6st, typ en oficiell sida!

Drachenwalds sida =E4r =F6vertagen sedan en tid tillbaka med mycket gott
resultat, kul om n=E5gon kunde ta =F6ver Nordmarks sida.

/Peter T , Karl Alrune fd ansvarig f=F6r den inofficielle Nordmarks sidan=
=20



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Hej =E4r det n=E5gon som vet vem man ska ringa till ang=E5ende=
 tr=E4ningsl=E4gret i Aros.

mvh farbror Sven=20


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On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Urban Lidgren wrote:

> Hej är det någon som vet vem man ska ringa till angående träningslägret i Aros.
> 
> mvh farbror Sven 
> 
	Kelly Boyle, phone 520941. Try him and say hello from Edmund from
Aarnimetsa.


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Ring Kelly Boyle (Lord Johann Berndt) 018-52 09 41

Ciao
Morgan//
Trainer-at-the-camp

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Hej =E4r det n=E5gon som vet vem man ska ringa till ang=E5ende =
tr=E4ningsl=E4gret i Aros.

mvh farbror Sven=20



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Nedanst=E5ende damp ned i min brevl=E5da. Finns det n=E5gon som kan ge dem e=
n
hj=E4lpande hand?

Mary

=46rom: "Per Inge Oestmoen" <pioe@powertech.no>
To: <eva@ebnilsson.pp.se>
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Dear friends!
Greetings to you!

We are two students of Mongolian history and culture. Our main areas of
interest lie within the Chingis-Khanite period, and the historical,
philosophical and spiritual world of the Mongols during that time. We are
academicans, but first and foremost we are into the spiritual side of
things.

We would be extremely thankful to have the opportunity to make contact with
persons who will be so kind as to provide information and discuss with us
the above. We feel that the heritage of Chingis Khan and the historical,
spiritual and psychological phenomena accompanying it is a treasury well
worth delving into, even today. In fact, in this over-urbanized and in many
ways
unnatural world, the spiritual world of the Mongolian forces and the
teachings of Chinggis Khan are much needed by all of humanity.

=46irst, I will give a description of the two of us:


KARELIUS:

Karelius deLeon is an originally Caribbean shaman and a professional
writer, concentrating on Shamanistic themes. He has now in addition become
a Mongolian shaman through anda-brotherhood with Per Inge Oestmoen, because
the Mongolian forces came through Per Inge. Nevertheless, Karelius is the
more experienced shaman of the two, he has practiced in may years, and is
Per Inge's teacher in shamanism. Karelius is the man who taught Per Inge
how to become a shaman,
and how he was to contact his Mongolian spirits, the Etugen and the Tengri,
Chingis Khan, Hoelun-eke and Subedei. He has also received a message that
he has been allowed to let the spirit of Yeh-lu Chu'tsai, Chinggis' Chinese
shaman, come through him to assist him in his Mongolian work. He is well
versed in every aspect of Shamanism, dreams, symbolism and mythology and
religious history from different areas of the world. His specialty is
healing, an art in which he excels and regularly and successfully treats
psychological as well as physical disturbances. He has also established
himself as a leader of a Shamanistic center in Norway, where art and
shamanism are combined to make a quite interesting cultural setting.
Several times a month, there is drum travel, dance, and exhibition of
artwork. His wife, a bachelor of Fine Arts, assists him faithfully in this
endeavor. An avid reader, Karelius also possesses an academic and
scientific mind, and is interested in every aspect of the
Chinggis-Khaganite period. Thus, historical and academic themes are as
interesting as the metaphysical ones. He is born in 1953.


PER INGE:

Per Inge Oestmoen is the man who started the Mongol thing. He has his
spiritual/karmic origin in Old Mongolia. He became, through a medium,
contacted by Chinggis Khagan, and told that he must "find what he carries
within himself from he was there, and bring it out through writing," and by
other means. When saying this, Chinggis showed himself with a writing tool
in his one hand, and a dagger in the other. The dagger would then symbolize
a sharpened intellect with which to bring the Mongolian thing forward,
energetic activity and purity of decication. Karelius got messages to this
effect, too, and told Per Inge that it is his destiny to serve Chinggis and
the Mongolian spirits as best he can, to further the Mongolian element in
Universe. After being initiated by his anda and teacher Karelius, Per Inge
has established contact with his Mongolian spirits, and thus established
himself as a Mongolian shaman. Three times a month, that is at Dark Moon,
New Moon, and Full Moon, he leads Mongolian rituals in a power circle in
the Norwegian forest, where the abovementioned Mongolian spirits are
successfully invoked, and cooperate with him. Per Inge is an ardent
environmentalist, and believes that it is unfortunate that Man loses
contact with Nature and Life in a destructive urbanized lifestyle. Thus he
is greatly enamored with the Mongolian nomad way of life and its unique,
healthy closeness to Nature. He is a student of politics as well as
history, and his bookshelves are filled with books on the Mongol Empire. He
is mainly interested in the spiritual and ideological foundations and
principles of the Mongol Empire, and in the insights and teachings of
Chinggis Khagan. Moreover, he is also a professional writer. He is born in
1960.

Both of us wholeheartedly support the Mongolian endeavor to find back to
and develop the spiritual and philosophical roots of the Mongol nation, and
wait eagerly for your reply. We are both looking forward to future
long-standing cooperation in our common work to forcefully bring out the
Mongolian element into the world. Be assured of our will to accomplish
this!


With the very best greetings from both of us!

Per Inge and Karelius

Per Inge Oestmoen
 pioe@powertech.no

and

Karelius deLeon
village@powertech.no


"The precious jade has no crust,
the polished dagger no dirt on it,
man born to life is not deathless,
he must go from this world without home,
without resting place.
The glory of a deed is in being finished.
=46irm and unbending is he
who keeps a plighted word faithfully.
=46ollow not the will of another
and you will have the good-will of many."

CHINGIS KHAN, 1227



"The precious jade has no crust,
the polished dagger no dirt on it,
man born to life is not deathless,
he must go from this world without home,
without resting place.
The glory of a deed is in being finished.
=46irm and unbending is he
who keeps a plighted word faithfully.
=46ollow not the will of another
and you will have the good-will of many."

CHINGIS KHAN, 1227



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Hejsan,svejsan,

Just nu försoka jag sätta upp en mailing-lista för Baroniet Vestre.
Tyvärr, mina net-server clara inte av det automatiskt förran nästa år.
Därför tänkte jag att jag ska kör det manuellt. Om ni är intresserad,
eller känner någon som är, skicka en email till mig och säg det. Var
snäll och inkludera "BVML" i subject linjen.

Jag hoppas på att det kan vara en bra plats för att sätta ut info om
precis vad pågår runtomkring Baroniet.

Mera info komma tills de som svarar.

Tjaba---Hejdå

Enda


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Jag fick f=F6ljande fr=E5ga fr=E5n THL Catrin Gwynystlum:

>F=F6rresten, jag h=F6rde ett mycket m=E4rkligt rykte fr=E5n n=E5gon som=
 hade tr=E4ffat
>n=E5gon som hade varit med p=E5 St=E5th=E5llar- torneringen. Ryktet s=E4ger=
 att du
>med omedelbar verkan ska ha avg=E5tt fr=E5n dina =E4mbeten, l=E4mnat=
 tillbaka alla
>dina utm=E4rkelser, g=E5tt ur SCA och g=E5tt in i Nordrike. Min sagesperson
>framf=F6rde det p=E5 fullt allvar, s=E5 den som ber=E4ttade f=F6r henne=
 m=E5ste ha
>varit =F6vertygande.
>Vad st=E5r p=E5?

Detta =E4r l=F6gn och f=F6rbannad dikt!=20
M=E5 tungan svartna p=E5 alla som sprider n=E5got s=E5dant!=20

Jag HAR sagt upp mig som kastellan i Aros, det =E4r sant, men det var efter=
=20
st=E5th=E5llartorneringen s=E5 det kan nog inte vara k=E4llan till ryktet.
Jag tj=E4nstgjorde inte som h=E4rold vid st=E5th=E5llartornerningen, men det=
 var f=F6r=20
att jag var f=F6rkyld och utan r=F6st! Allts=E5: Jag =E4r fortfarande h=E4ro=
ld i
Nordmark,=20
och jag har inte f=F6r avsikt att hoppa av fr=E5n SCA.=20

Var sn=E4lla och sprid detta till alla som lyssnar p=E5 rykten hellre =E4n=
=20
kollar fakta med ber=F6rda parter.

	Frithiof the Friendly Herald  :-)[X]


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Jag har h|rt att Frithiof numera heter Frithiof V{lrakad.

Kan det st{mma??? Du har i s} fall svikit alla v}ra ideal vad g{ller
sk{gg. Du {r icke l{ngre v}rt f|red|mme med din sl{ta kvinnohaka.

Med sk{ggiga h{lsningar / Ulf och Styrbj|rn.


ps. Ta icke illvilliga rykten p} allvar. ds. :)

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FYI.
/Gilliam

>------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
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Hej alla innev=E5nare i Nordmark

Den 8:e november postade jag pollingen om Nordmark som Furstend=F6mme till
alla SCA-medlemmar i Nordmark!!

Du b=F6r ha f=E5tt ditt r=F6stkuvert i onsdags eller torsdags. Om inte - ski=
cka
mig ett mail med namn , medlemmsnummer och adress s=E5 skall jag skicka ett
kuvert till dig.

Har n=E5gon r=E4tt adress till Toralf Hallen i Lund och Erik Simann i Malm=
=F6?
Jag har f=E5tt deras kuvert i retur.

Obs!!! senast den 29 november vill jag ha Din r=F6st!!!

Mary, drots



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HEJ!!!!!!!!!!!!

VARFOER VAENTA!?!?!?

POSTA DITT SVAR PAA POLLINGEN IDAG!


hepp hepp hepp hepp hepp ahepp hopp!


Marie
entusiastisk



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Hej h=E4r =E4r adressen till min Purf=E4rska hemsida

www.algonet.se/~gnovald/index.htm

/Gnovald


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Hejsan alla!

Vilka skall aaka till Universitetet och naer?
Jag har order fraan min familj att komma oever saa jag undrar om fler
skall dit...

/Iain MacCallum (Rikard Johnels) <jor@ffa.se>

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OOOYYYYEEESSSS!

Vid Laurels m=F6te L=F6rdag 5 Oktober 1996 registrerades bland annat=
 f=F6ljande
namn och vapen:

Anna de Byxe, namn.
Arngrim Bj=F6rnsson, namn.
Cormac Lawless O'Toole of Bray, vapen: Fyrstyckat i r=F6tt och silver, en
upprest enh=F6rning inom en b=E5rd, allt i svart.
Hallbiorn Ingialdsson, vapen: Silver, ett avskuret andreaskors inom en b=E5r=
d,
allt svart.
Karin J{o/}rgensdotter Eldhierta, namn.
Lindorm Eriksson, vapen: P=E5 gyllene sk=F6ld, en st=E5ende tv=E5bent=
 vingl=F6s drake
i r=F6tt.
        (En lindorm, allts=E5!)

F=F6r dessa lyckliga personer: Vivant! Vivant! Vivant!

Fotnot: {o/} betyder ett danskt =F6, ett o med diagonalt streck.
	Frithiof the Friendly Herald  :-)[X]


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(stryk det som inte =F6nskas:) Hej/Varen h=E4lsade/Mae Govannen
Jag har h=F6rt att det eventuellt blir en festival i Westfalen 1998 med=20
anledning av Westfaliska freden. K=E4nner n=E5gon till n=E5got om detta, eller=
 om=20
var man kan f=E5 tag p=E5 info? Skriv i s=E5 fal en rad fort!
(stryk det som inte =F6nskas:)Anna/Tora/Nimloth=20


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Anna Frimodig:
> Jag har h=F6rt att det eventuellt blir en festival i Westfalen 1998
> med anledning av Westfaliska freden.


Vid en hastig s=F6kning p=E5 Alta Vista hittade jag URLen

 http://www.dhm.de/museen/wlm/daten.html

med f=F6ljande inneh=E5ll:


"1648 - Krieg und Frieden in Europa",  Veranstaltungsdaten

 Veranstalter:
=09Die Veranstaltungsgesellschaft 350 Jahre Westf=E4lischer Friede mbH,
=09gef=F6rdert durch:

=09- Bundesministerium des Innern=20
=09- Land Niedersachsen=20
=09- Ministerium f=FCr Stadtentwicklung, Kultur und Sport des
=09  Landes Nordrhein-Westfalen
=09- Nordrhein-Westfalen-Stiftung Naturschutz, Heimat- und Kulturpflege

 Ausstellungsdauer:
=0924. Oktober 1998 bis 20. Januar 1999

 Ausstellungsorte:
=09- Westf=E4lisches Landesmuseum f=FCr Kunst und Kulturgeschichte M=FCnste=
r
=09- Kulturgeschichtliches Museum Osnabr=FCck

 Pressekonferenzen:
=09noch in Planung

 Er=F6ffnung:
=0924. Oktober 1998, 11.00 Uhr

 Publikationen:
=09Publikationen: Zur Ausstellung erscheint ein mehrsprachiger,
=09dreib=E4ndiger Katalog. Dar=FCber hinaus werden ein
=09Ausstellungskurzf=FChrer, eine CD-Rom, eine Audio-CD sowie ein
=09Videofilm produziert.

 F=FChrungen:
=09Zur Ausstellung wird ein differenziertes F=FChrungsprogramm in
=09mehreren Sprachen angeboten.

 bei R=FCckfragen:
=09Markus M=FCller, Tel.: 0251 / 5907-168 oder -169, Fax: 0251/5907-210

------------------------------------------------------------------------

En kraftig satsning m_a_o!

Men n=E5gon festival hittade jag inte n=E5got om.  Kanske Markus M=FCller
k=E4nner till n=E5got om den...

mvh
Leif Euren osv...


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:34:28 -0500
From:YoLyddy@aol.com
Subject: Archery Masterwork

Archery Masterwork Judging for Estrella XIII 
 
    Although the Masterwork competition will run in conjunction with the A&S
competition and will be located in the A&S pavilion, it is a completely
separate event.  Please direct all questions & or difficulties to the Archery
Judges, Aten Royal Archer or her deputy. 
    Sign up will be from 10:00 to 11:30 Saturday.  Judging will begin at
12:00 noon.  Site will be in pavilion 8 or 10.  More details will be
forthcoming.  
 
   All entries must be of pre-1600 design.   Non-period materials may be used
but greater value will be given for those items made from period materials
and fashioned by period methods.  No item that has been entered at other
Masterwork competitions will be allowed.   Anyone having questions or wishing
to volunteer to judge this competition should contact Lady Lyddy, Aten
Kingdom Royal Archer at YoLyddy@aol.com or Linda Carnahan, PO Box 1,
Claypool,Az. 85532, Fax (520)473-3219 
 
 The divisions to be judged are: 
          1) Longbows 
          2) Arrows (including quarrels) 
          3) Crossbows 
          4) Other related period archery equipment (bracers,arrowheads,
quivers, composite recurves, etc.) 
BOWS: 
     Bows will be judged based on: 
          1) Materials used - period materials will be favored  
           2) Feel - feel of draw, degree of stack, handshock 
          3) Construction -how well tillered, degree of string 
           2) Feel - feel of draw, degree of stack, handshock 
          3) Construction -how well tillered, degree of string   follow,
tools and techniques used, etc. 
          4) Finish - absence of tool marks, resemblance to  period weapon,
etc. 
          5) Additional details (horn/antler nocks, bowstring  type, string
material, inlay work, decoration, etc. 
          6) Documentation - not as heavily stressed for the first couple
AMJ's 
 ARROWS: 
     Arrows will be judged based on: 
          1) Materials used - period materials will be favored 
          2) How well matched the set is (spine, grain weight, balance) 
          3) Construction - self-made or purchased shafts, nocks (self /
reinforced), heads (handmade/purchased 
and  period/modern),  fletching (type of feather, how well cut & aligned),
etc. 
          4) Finish - cresting, resemblance to actual period arrows, etc. 
          5) Documentation - not as heavily stressed for the  first couple
AMJ's 
 In the case of an entry of a matched bow and arrow set, the bow and arrows
will be judged separately. 
  
CROSSBOWS:          
     Crossbows will judged based on: 
          1) Materials used - period materials will be favored 
          2) Release 
          3) Finish - absence of tool marks, resemblance to period crossbows.

         4) Documentation - not as heavily stressed for the  first couple
AMJ's 
 OTHER RELATED PERIOD ARCHERY EQUIPMENT: 
     As this category covers a wide variety of entries (bracers, arrowheads,
composite recurves, archer's shields 
and short swords or armor), criteria for judging will be more general.  Items
will be judged against each other 
based on: 
     1) Level of project difficulty 
     2) Quality of construction 
     3) Documentation and resemblance to period example(s). If many entries
of one type are submitted, 
additional categories may be created at the discretion of the
judges-in-charge. 
 
HISTORICAL RESEARCH 
     Limit:  10 pages/5000 words 
       Must include a cover page with a general description of the subject
and the purpose of the research project.  List sources. 
       Project will be judged on: 
      1) Complexity of the subject & difficulty in presentation within the
length of paper allowed.  Does the 
paper achieve the purpose outlined on the cover page. 
      2) Workmanship: Basic writing skills, clarity of the piece,
bibliography of quality sources & footnotes, 
drawings, pictures etc. 
      3) Aesthetic Quality:  Was it readable, informative and stimulating.   
 


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Slain till dig som haller i Mail-listan.

Kan du koppla bort mig, man blir ju overskoljd av mails. 

Har ingen aning om alla far lasa detta i sa fall, ha det gott allihopa

Ajoss 

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Noo, nooo...please not here tooo....;)

Ciao
Morgan//

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Slain till dig som haller i Mail-listan.

Kan du koppla bort mig, man blir ju overskoljd av mails. 

Har ingen aning om alla far lasa detta i sa fall, ha det gott allihopa

Ajoss 

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:34:28 -0500
From:YoLyddy@aol.com
Subject: Archery Masterwork

Archery Masterwork Judging for Estrella XIII

    Although the Masterwork competition will run in conjunction with the A&S
competition and will be located in the A&S pavilion, it is a completely
separate event.  Please direct all questions & or difficulties to the Archery
Judges, Aten Royal Archer or her deputy.
    Sign up will be from 10:00 to 11:30 Saturday.  Judging will begin at
12:00 noon.  Site will be in pavilion 8 or 10.  More details will be
forthcoming.

   All entries must be of pre-1600 design.   Non-period materials may be used
but greater value will be given for those items made from period materials
and fashioned by period methods.  No item that has been entered at other
Masterwork competitions will be allowed.   Anyone having questions or wishing
to volunteer to judge this competition should contact Lady Lyddy, Aten
Kingdom Royal Archer at YoLyddy@aol.com or Linda Carnahan, PO Box 1,
Claypool,Az. 85532, Fax (520)473-3219

 The divisions to be judged are:
          1) Longbows
          2) Arrows (including quarrels)
          3) Crossbows
          4) Other related period archery equipment (bracers,arrowheads,
quivers, composite recurves, etc.)
BOWS:
     Bows will be judged based on:
          1) Materials used - period materials will be favored
           2) Feel - feel of draw, degree of stack, handshock
          3) Construction -how well tillered, degree of string
           2) Feel - feel of draw, degree of stack, handshock
          3) Construction -how well tillered, degree of string   follow,
tools and techniques used, etc.
          4) Finish - absence of tool marks, resemblance to  period weapon,
etc.
          5) Additional details (horn/antler nocks, bowstring  type, string
material, inlay work, decoration, etc.
          6) Documentation - not as heavily stressed for the first couple
AMJ's
 ARROWS:
     Arrows will be judged based on:
          1) Materials used - period materials will be favored
          2) How well matched the set is (spine, grain weight, balance)
          3) Construction - self-made or purchased shafts, nocks (self /
reinforced), heads (handmade/purchased
and  period/modern),  fletching (type of feather, how well cut & aligned),
etc.
          4) Finish - cresting, resemblance to actual period arrows, etc.
          5) Documentation - not as heavily stressed for the  first couple
AMJ's
 In the case of an entry of a matched bow and arrow set, the bow and arrows
will be judged separately.

CROSSBOWS:
     Crossbows will judged based on:
          1) Materials used - period materials will be favored
          2) Release
          3) Finish - absence of tool marks, resemblance to period crossbows.

         4) Documentation - not as heavily stressed for the  first couple
AMJ's
 OTHER RELATED PERIOD ARCHERY EQUIPMENT:
     As this category covers a wide variety of entries (bracers, arrowheads,
composite recurves, archer's shields
and short swords or armor), criteria for judging will be more general.  Items
will be judged against each other
based on:
     1) Level of project difficulty
     2) Quality of construction
     3) Documentation and resemblance to period example(s). If many entries
of one type are submitted,
additional categories may be created at the discretion of the
judges-in-charge.

HISTORICAL RESEARCH
     Limit:  10 pages/5000 words
       Must include a cover page with a general description of the subject
and the purpose of the research project.  List sources.
       Project will be judged on:
      1) Complexity of the subject & difficulty in presentation within the
length of paper allowed.  Does the
paper achieve the purpose outlined on the cover page.
      2) Workmanship: Basic writing skills, clarity of the piece,
bibliography of quality sources & footnotes,
drawings, pictures etc.
      3) Aesthetic Quality:  Was it readable, informative and stimulating.




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> Slain till dig som haller i Mail-listan.
> 
> Kan du koppla bort mig, man blir ju overskoljd av mails. 
> 
> Har ingen aning om alla far lasa detta i sa fall, ha det gott allihopa
> 
> Ajoss 
> 
> Philip MaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacBriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide
> 
> 
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Nu {r du ute.

Jag som tycker att den h{r listan {r d|d, det {r ju mindre {n 50 brev om
dagen...

	/Styrbj|rn, N}jd.

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tjaba vi vill va m=E4 =E5 f=E5 brev

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vi =E4r kollektivet silverfisken i gotvik och det =E4r Torkil, P=E5l, =0D
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On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, M Broman wrote:

> Noo, nooo...please not here tooo....;)

F=F6rhoppningsvis f=E5r vi inte en alltf=F6r vanliga varianten: g=F6r reply=
 p=E5=20
ett digest (alla 800 raderna...), med ett ilsket "get me off this list"=20
p=E5 slutet. Men s=E5 har vi ju ingen fr=E5n AOL h=E4r (f=F6r vilket vi =E4=
r evigt=20
tacksamma).

Det b=E4sta svaret p=E5 s=E5dant s=E5g jag i en annan mailinglista:

>>i'm really sick of dealing with this situation and i think my email=20
>>account is being abused.
>>
>Can we all please stop lying to this poor person and tell the truth--that
>there *is* no leaving this list once you've subscribed, that "Medieval
>Science" is a CIA/United Nations/S.P.E.C.T.R.E. front organization, that
>once we have your e-mail account you must either work as one our double
>agents or be interned on an Atlantic Ocean archipelago 400 miles off the
>coast of  Malagasy that's been removed from all world maps since 1959?

Det *vettiga* =E4r om man i slutet av alla meddelanden l=E4gger en liten sn=
utt=20
om hur man g=F6r unsubscribe: s=E5 =E4r alla meddelanden ett svar p=E5 fr=
=E5gan.=20
Inte f=F6r att det varit ett problem h=E4r.

/UlfR

P.S. Klagaren i citatet ovan hade hotat med "legal action", eftersom en=20
lista med 1-5 meddelanden i veckan var s=E5 st=F6rande...

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From: janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se (Janna G Spanne)
Subject: Drachenwald University
Status: OR

Kungad=F6mets universitet n=E4rmar sig med stormsteg. H=E4r =E4r =E4ntligen
ett schema, som trots allt =E4ven detta =E4r prelimin=E4rt. Dvs listan av
kurser ska st=E4mma hyggligt, men det kan bli =E4ndringar i sj=E4lva "tidtab=
ellen"
n=E4r vi kommer dit och f=E5r se lokalen.

/Catrin

>Schedule:
>(S) =3D possibly sauna changing room
>
>Fri 19-21 Easy dances from (almost) period sources, Catrin Gwynystlum
>
>Sat non-fighting:
>9-11    16th century dance, intermediate level, Signe Sigurdsdotter
>10-11   SCA in Europe: how and why, Catrin Gwynystlum (S)
>11-12   SCA courtesy: titles and forms of address, Queen Eanor
>12-13   Lunch
>13-14   14th century clothing, Signe Sigurdsdotter
>13-14   The medieval concept of chivalry, Celemon o Gwynedd
>14-15   Early period clothing, Bran Ethelin
>14-15   How to be an SCA herald, Pietari Uv
>15-16   Desserts from period sources, Celemon o Gwynedd (S)
>15-17   Dancing for beginners, Aarnimetsa dance mistress
>
>Sat fighting:
>>10-11   Sword&shield, Morgan de grey   Boffer practice, Aarn. boffer marsh=
al
>11-12   Greatsword, Johann Berndt
>12-13   Lunch
>13-14   Lecture on the medieval concept of chivalry
>14-15    Two swords, Morgan de Grey
>15--    Spear fighting, Klaus
>
>
>17.30-18.30     Court
>18.30 --        Feast
>20 ? -- SCA ranks, awards and chivalry, Morgan de Grey
>
>Sun 10 --       Melee practice
>



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En ny lokal blev vi tvungen att inf=F6rskaffa i all hast, ist=E4llet s=E5 k=
ommer
vi att h=E5lla till p=E5 Tynder=F6 byggdeg=E5rd, v=E4gbeskrinvingen lyder n=
umera s=E5
h=E4r...

V=E4gbeskrivning
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
S=F6derifr=E5n:
=C5k till Sundsvall och forts=E4tt E4 norrut f=F6rbi Timr=E5, Ca 2km efter
det stora fula Y:et sv=E4nger ni av E4:an vid skylt mot =C5st=F6n, Tynder=
=F6,
S=F6r=E5ker. Tag h=F6ger i korsningen (skylt mot Tynder=F6) och f=F6lj v=E4=
gen i lite
drygt 1 mil. Tag h=F6ger vid skylt mot Holm=F6 brygga och Tynder=F6 byggdeg=
=E5rd.
Huset =E4r stort och gult och ligger p=E5 v=E4nster sida . OBS!! Tynder=F6
hembyggdsg=E5rd =E4r ocks=E5 ett stort gult hus som ni kommer att passera m=
itt
emot kyrkan. D=E4r =E4r det dock inte!!

Norrifr=E5n:
Tag E4:an s=F6derut mot Sundsvall, innan Timr=E5 sv=E4ng av motorv=E4gen vi=
d
skylt mot =C5st=F6n, om ni ser ett stort fult Y s=E5 har ni =E5kt f=F6r l=
=E5ngt.
Vidare se ovan.
=20
H=E4lsningar Autokrat Rurik Ulvbane.

P.S Var sn=E4ll och h=E4lsa allt detta till dom som inte vet s=E5 slipper v=
i
on=F6diga miss=F6den D.S =20
 =20


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Hej

Lite statestik.

Jag skickade iv=E4g 150 st r=F6stsedlar om Nordmark som Furstend=F6mme. Har =
f=E5tt
in 75 st svar. Har du svarat? Inte? *G=F6r det senast 29:e november!*

Uppmana dina kompisar att svara!

Hepp, hepp, hepp. N=E5r vi 100% svarsfrekvens?  Klart vi kan!!!!

Mary - Drots



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Eftersom Gotvikarna inte f=F6rst=E5r sitt egert b=E4sta s=E5 f=E5r jag v=E4l=
 hj=E4lpa dem
p=E5 traven...

Den 7:e december blir det ett ytterst inofficiellt k=E4mpatr=E4ningsl=E4ger =
med
tillh=F6rande fest (tror jag...) i G=F6teborg.

Intresserad?

H=F6r av dig till:

P=E5l Abj=F6rnson (Rasmus)
eller
Torkill (=D6rjan)
eller
J=F6ns B=E4gare (Johan Hector)
p=E5 telnr: 031-7117972
e-post:silverfisken@goteborg.mail.telia.com

The more the merrier...

H=E4lsar Aodhan



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Hej!=20

Antingen s=E5 =E4r det v=E4ldigt tyst p=E5 den h=E4r mailings-listan, ell=
er =0D
ocks=E5 =E4r vi inte uppkopplade! =C4r det tyst, s=E5 lyssna inte p=E5 de=
t =0D
h=E4r heller och annars: Sn=E4lla, koplla upp oss!!!

Vi =E4r: Silverfisken@Goteborg.mail.telia.com

Vi =E4r ocks=E5 P=E5l, Torkil, Ulfrun, Runa och J=F6ns at =0D
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Gotvik ordnar ett mindre k=E4mpatr=E4ningsl=E4ger den 6:e till 8:e=20
december. Sj=E4lva k=E4mpatr=E4ningen =E4ger rum p=E5 dagen den 7:e, med=20
start senast klockan 10. Det kommer k=E4mpar fr=E5n =E5tminstone hela=20
Vestre (dvs kantonerna Ulvberget, Gotvik och Juneborg) samt n=E5gra=20
fr=E5n Storh=E4rad (friherred=F6me i Nordrike).=20

P=E5 kv=E4llen den 7:e blir det knytisbankett. Var och en f=F6rv=E4ntas t=
a=20
med sig mat f=F6r en 30-50 kronor (men bara lugn, vi har aff=E4r inom=20
100 m).=20

F=F6r l=E5ngv=E4ga g=E4ster finns gratis =F6vernattning i Silverfisken oc=
h=20
eventuellt hemma hos Brynolf. Tag g=E4rna med liggunderlag (vi har=20
n=E5gra madrasser och soffor, f=F6rst till kvarn...).

F=F6r anm=E4lningar och mera info ring till Silverfisken, 031-7117972=20
och prata med Rasmus (P=E5l).

- P=E5l, marsk i Gotvik -

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Sn=E4lla lilla du ge mig listan

daniel.larsson@goteborg.mail.telia.com

tackar

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Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E5ligt?= med brev...
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H=E4r sitter man och hoppas p=E5 att n=E5gon ska r=E4dda en fr=E5n en dyster=
 uppsats,
men n=E4h=E4 d=E5. Det passade visst inte att skicka n=E5gra brev just idag.

Jag skulle nog tom bli =F6verlycklig om jag fick ett brev om Sca-archery
competition eller n=E5got dylikt.

Nu startar jag en debatt.

Vad tror ni?
Hade Franz Kafka egentligen bara sjuk humor eller var han svart och sv=E5r p=
=E5
riktigt?

Svar mottages g=E4rna, s=E5 fort som m=F6jligt (helst ikv=E4ll...)

/En otroligt uttr=E5kad Aodhan



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From: Johan Hector <silverfisken@goteborg.mail.telia.com>
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Ang=E5ende Blivande Baroniet Vestres T=E4ltl=E4ger:

Som det redan tidigare har sagts h=E4r p=E5 n=E4tet s=E5 planeras det ett=
 =0D
t=E4ltl=E4ger h=E4r i Vestre nu till sommaren. Tanken =E4r att detta skal=
l =0D
ligga ungef=E4r samtidigt i tiden som Hova Riddarvecka, och =0D
eventuellt helt ers=E4tta SCA-evenemanget Hova. F=F6rhoppningen =E4r =0D
vidare att det skall ligga inom ungef=E4r samma geografiska omr=E5de =0D
som Hova, dvs Ulvberget. =C4n s=E5 l=E4nge har vi inget omr=E5de, men =0D
s=F6kandet p=E5g=E5r.

Vad =E4r d=E5 tanken med l=E4gret? Varf=F6r dumpa ett redan etablerat =0D
evenemang, och f=E5r man inte nog av scoutliv p=E5 Kn=E4cke och Wisby? =0D
Tanken =E4r helt enkelt dr=F6mmen om medeltiden! Att f=F6r en g=E5ng skul=
l =0D
ta steget bort fr=E5n skolmatsalar, campingplatser och scoutg=E5rdar, =0D
och f=F6rs=F6ka finna en m=F6jlighet att verkligen =E5teruppleva =0D
medeltiden. En dr=F6m som tycks ha avsvalnat. M=E5nga man pratar med =0D
anser helt enkelt att SCA och Nordmark har stagnerat. Man har =0D
funnit ett relativt schysst koncept, och i detta har man fastnat. =0D
Det =E4r denna trend som vi vill f=F6rs=F6ka bryta.=20

S=E5 vad =E4r det som planeras? F=F6rst och fr=E4mst s=E5 s=E4tter vi sto=
r =0D
vikt vid valet av plats. F=F6rhoppningen =E4r en romantisk =E4ng vid en =0D
liten sj=F6strand, omgiven av pittoreska skogsdungar. Inga mundaner, =0D
inga bilar, ingen scoutg=E5rd och inget "haru gjott den d=E4 sj=E4lv?" =0D
N=F6dv=E4ndigheter som parkering, plats f=F6r avtr=E4de, rinnande vatten =
=0D
och dylikt kommer naturligtvis att finnas, men dock inte synliga. =0D
Vi r=E4knar ocks=E5 med att f=F6rs=F6ka driva ett v=E4rldshus med matlig =
=0D
inriktning p=E5 dagen, och mer rinnande p=E5 kv=E4llen. Mundana t=E4lt =0D
undanbedes, men eventuellt s=E5 kan man ha n=E5gon form av =0D
klass-B-camping en bit bort. Hela l=E4gret kommer s=E5ledes att vara =0D
F=F6rtrollad Zon! Moderna ting som sovs=E4ckar, Pet-flaskor und so =0D
weiter f=E5r h=E5llas v=E4l dolda.

Eller kort och gott: V=E5r dr=F6m =E4r att erbjuda deltagarna en =0D
m=F6jlighet att f=F6r en g=E5ng skull komma medeltiden s=E5 n=E4ra som =0D
m=F6jligt. Eller Uttryckt p=E5 ett ennat s=E4tt: att leka SCA s=E5 som de=
t =0D
en g=E5ng fr=E5n b=F6rjan var t=E4nkt.


Med v=E4nliga h=E4lsningar Vestre (genom Gotvik, genom J=F6ns B=E4gare oc=
h =0D
Torkil Blide, genom Kenneth, v=E5r 486:a.)



PS: F=F6r information: H=F6r av dig till:

Silverfisken (Torkil, P=E5l, J=F6ns, m fl): 031-711 79 72, (E-post: =0D
Silverfisken@Goteborg.mail.telia.com), eller

M=E5ns Kotte: 031-19 72 15, eller

Brynolf Haraldsson: 031-24 93 14

G=F6r det.

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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:10:18 +0100 (MET)
From: Paul Bodin <paul-bod@dsv.su.se>
To: Nordmark Mailinglist <nordmark@ludd.luth.se>
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On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Jonas S=F6derqvist wrote:

> H=E4r sitter man och hoppas p=E5 att n=E5gon ska r=E4dda en fr=E5n en dys=
ter uppsats,
> men n=E4h=E4 d=E5. Det passade visst inte att skicka n=E5gra brev just id=
ag.

N=E4 fy fan!

>=20
> Jag skulle nog tom bli =F6verlycklig om jag fick ett brev om Sca-archery
> competition eller n=E5got dylikt.

Det =E4r vad jag kallar uttr=E5kad!

>=20
> Nu startar jag en debatt.
>=20
> Vad tror ni?
> Hade Franz Kafka egentligen bara sjuk humor eller var han svart och sv=E5=
r p=E5
> riktigt?

Ja, absolut! Men du f=E5r inte skygga fr=E5n dom riktigt tunga fr=E5gorna, =
som
t.ex. om vad "My Head's In Mississippi" (fr=E5n ZZ top's Recycler) handlar
om och om de t=E4nker spela den p=E5 Hovet den 31 januari?

>=20
> Svar mottages g=E4rna, s=E5 fort som m=F6jligt (helst ikv=E4ll...)

SCA-tid?

>=20
> /En otroligt uttr=E5kad Aodhan
>=20
>=20
>=20

/En fantastiskt s=F6mnig Trygge


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Trygge Wrote:
>Ja, absolut! Men du f=E5r inte skygga fr=E5n dom riktigt tunga fr=E5gorna, =
som
>t.ex. om vad "My Head's In Mississippi" (fr=E5n ZZ top's Recycler) handlar
>om och om de t=E4nker spela den p=E5 Hovet den 31 januari?

Jo "My Head's in Mississipi" =E4r ju ett svart parti i ZZ-tops historia. Jag
tror att det kan ligga en undertryckt sexualitet i den texten, han m=E5st f=
=E5
komma ut med sin =E5ngest och sin frustration.

Men har du n=E5gon g=E5ng funderat =F6ver den djupare inneb=F6rden av Arne W=
eises
julh=E4lsningar. "Fr=E5n oss alla..." osv.

Jag kan ana ett visst drag av ensamhet och en k=E4nsla av alienation i r=F6s=
ten
hos honom. Just att han adresserar sig sj=E4lv som "oss", dvs inte i 1:a
person singular (jag) som =E4r normalt tyder p=E5 att han dessutom har drabb=
ats
av en sl=E4ng av hybris. Det s=E4gs ju att =E4ven Gud k=E4nner sig r=E4tt s=
=E5 ensam...

Vi ses i h=F6stm=F6rkret

/Jonas K. (a.k.a. Aodhan)



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On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jonas Soderqvist wrote:

> Trygge Wrote:
> >Ja, absolut! Men du f=E5r inte skygga fr=E5n dom riktigt tunga fr=E5gorn=
a, som
> >t.ex. om vad "My Head's In Mississippi" (fr=E5n ZZ top's Recycler) handl=
ar
> >om och om de t=E4nker spela den p=E5 Hovet den 31 januari?
>=20
> Jo "My Head's in Mississipi" =E4r ju ett svart parti i ZZ-tops historia. =
Jag
> tror att det kan ligga en undertryckt sexualitet i den texten, han m=E5st=
 f=E5
> komma ut med sin =E5ngest och sin frustration.

Undertryckt!? Svart parti? "My head.." =E4r ju den b=E4sta l=E5ten genom
tiderna! Den handlar ju om LIVET! Dvs =E5ngest, frustration och undertryckt
sexualitet...=20

>=20
> Men har du n=E5gon g=E5ng funderat =F6ver den djupare inneb=F6rden av Arn=
e Weises
> julh=E4lsningar. "Fr=E5n oss alla..." osv.
>=20

Eeh, nej.

> Jag kan ana ett visst drag av ensamhet och en k=E4nsla av alienation i r=
=F6sten
> hos honom. Just att han adresserar sig sj=E4lv som "oss", dvs inte i 1:a
> person singular (jag) som =E4r normalt tyder p=E5 att han dessutom har dr=
abbats
> av en sl=E4ng av hybris. Det s=E4gs ju att =E4ven Gud k=E4nner sig r=E4tt=
 s=E5 ensam...
>=20

Du =E4r verkligen fantastiskt djup.=20

> Vi ses i h=F6stm=F6rkret
>=20
> /Jonas K. (a.k.a. Aodhan)
>=20
>=20
>=20

Fr=E5n oss alla... Harebra!
/Trygge


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From: 	Paul Bodin[SMTP:paul-bod@dsv.su.se]

>On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jonas Soderqvist wrote:
>> Det s=E4gs ju att =E4ven Gud k=E4nner sig r=E4tt s=E5 ensam...
>Du =E4r verkligen fantastiskt djup.=20
>Fr=E5n oss alla... Harebra!
>/Trygge


Hmmm....kanske gud borde skaffa sig egen e-mail och websida...;)

god@heaven.sky.com
www.heaven.com

....och hans motpart....;)

devil@hell.hot.com
www.hell.com

...eller tillsammans....;)

god.devil@heaven.hell
www.heaven&hell.com

Ciao
Morgan//

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Men sn=E4lla Morgan, Gud kan v=E4l inte vara kommersiell =3D hitta en annan=20=

uppkoppling =E4n .com
D=E4remot kan jag t=E4nka mig att v=E5ra vikingav=E4nner skulle kunna ha nytta=
 av:
tor.hammare@thunder.com
eller varf=F6r inte
oden@hugin.munin

Tora
 ----------
>Fr=E5n: M Broman
>Till: nordmark
>Ang=E5ende: RE: Men har du...
>Datum: den 27 november 1996 21.17
>
>
>
>
>----------
>From:    Paul Bodin[SMTP:paul-bod@dsv.su.se]
>
>>On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jonas Soderqvist wrote:
>>> Det s=E4gs ju att =E4ven Gud k=E4nner sig r=E4tt s=E5 ensam...
>>Du =E4r verkligen fantastiskt djup.
>>Fr=E5n oss alla... Harebra!
>>/Trygge
>
>
>Hmmm....kanske gud borde skaffa sig egen e-mail och websida...;)
>
>god@heaven.sky.com
>www.heaven.com
>
>....och hans motpart....;)
>
>devil@hell.hot.com
>www.hell.com
>
>...eller tillsammans....;)
>
>god.devil@heaven.hell
>www.heaven&hell.com
>
>Ciao
>Morgan//
>
>


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From:     Paul Bodin[SMTP:paul-bod@dsv.su.se]

>On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Jonas Soderqvist wrote:
>> Det s=E4gs ju att =E4ven Gud k=E4nner sig r=E4tt s=E5 ensam...
>Du =E4r verkligen fantastiskt djup.
>Fr=E5n oss alla... Harebra!
>/Trygge


>Hmmm....kanske gud borde skaffa sig egen e-mail och websida...;)
>
>god@heaven.sky.com
>www.heaven.com
Att gud har en email adress vet jag, den g=E5r till n=E5gra m=E4nniskor i Isra=
el=20
som sedan varje vecka stoppar b=F6nerna i muren.
Hemsida hittade jag inte (men de som vill kan ju alltid titta p=E5=20
www.livetsord.com  :-)  )

>....och hans motpart....;)
>
>devil@hell.hot.com
>www.hell.com
Det blev lixom svart n=E4r man gick in p=E5 www.hell.com

>...eller tillsammans....;)
>
>god.devil@heaven.hell
>www.heaven&hell.com
hittade vi inte....

Ciao
Morgan//



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On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 annaf@sebank.se wrote:

> Men sn=E4lla Morgan, Gud kan v=E4l inte vara kommersiell =3D hitta en ann=
an=20
> uppkoppling =E4n .com
> D=E4remot kan jag t=E4nka mig att v=E5ra vikingav=E4nner skulle kunna ha =
nytta av:
> tor.hammare@thunder.com
> eller varf=F6r inte
> oden@hugin.munin


Givetvis har Gud adressen gud@heaven.gov ("...ty mitt =E4r riket")

Notara att det finns ett flertal alias f=F6r gud; god, etc.

D=E4remot =E4r det givetvis s=E5 att InterNIC har dom=E4nen valhal.org=20
registrerat sedan l=E4nge:

Valhal (VALHAL-DOM)

   Domain Name: VALHAL.ORG

   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact=
:
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   Record last updated on 20-Jun-64.
   Record created on 00-Jan-00.

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   NS1.HEL.ORG                  127.0.0.1
   NS2.JOUNTHEIM.ORG            127.0.0.1

/UlfR

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Mea culpa: det =E4r heaven.org....

/P=E4r

[No name] (HEAVEN3-DOM)
   1317 E Las Animas
   Colorado Springs, CO 80910
   USA

   Domain Name: HEAVEN.ORG

   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact=
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      Sims, Michael  (MS416)  oberbee@HEAVEN.ORG
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=C4r det en till som =E4r arbetskygg s=E5 h=E4r dags p=E5 morgonen????
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Fr=E5n: Par Leijonhufvud
Till: Fredrik.Kurtson@ALLGON.SE
Kopia: nordmark@ludd.luth.se
Ang=E5ende: Re: SV: RE: Men har du...
Datum: den 28 november 1996 8.29



Mea culpa: det =E4r heaven.org....

/P=E4r

[No name] (HEAVEN3-DOM)
   1317 E Las Animas
   Colorado Springs, CO 80910
   USA

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