From nordmark-request Mon Mar 3 16:00:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mb02.swip.net (mb02.swip.net [193.12.122.97]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19275 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:00:41 +0100 Received: from [130.244.106.113] (dialup106-5-13.swipnet.se [130.244.106.113]) by mb02.swip.net (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA13039 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:00:33 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: md21199@dredd.swip.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:01:50 +0100 To: nordmark@Ludd.LuTH.SE From: Ninni M Pettersson Subject: Ur textilkonstens historia Status: O God middag! En underbar bok f=F6r den textilhistoriskt intresserade reas just nu f=F6r 198:- p=E5 =C5hlens City i Stockholm: "Ur textilkonstens historia" av Agnes Geijer. Det =E4r den tredje upplagan fr=E5n 1994 och inget specialtryck f=F6r rean. (Den finns f=F6r =F6vrigt= inte med i reakatalogen, s=E5 jag tror =C5hlens rear ut sitt lager.) N=E4r jag var d=E4r idag s=E5 fanns det ca 6 ex kvar. H=E4lsningar, Adeliz ------------------------------------------------------------ Ninni M Pettersson -- vidumavi@swipnet.se ------------------------------------------------------------ From nordmark-request Tue Mar 4 19:13:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mailc.telia.com (root@mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07713 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:13:07 +0100 Received: from d1o3.telia.com (root@d1o3.telia.com [194.22.192.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA18091 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:13:05 +0100 Received: from [194.22.192.81] (t5o3p12.telia.com [194.22.192.81]) by d1o3.telia.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00549 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:13:02 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: u86400466@m1.864.telia.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:13:57 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: eva@ebnilsson.pp.se (Eva Nilsson) Subject: Quedlinburg Status: O Hej Nedanst=E5ende kom till mig. Mary >Date: 02 Mar 97 13:23:25 EST >From: MARGARET LYNN <100527.3575@CompuServe.COM> >To: Tammy Lash <100103.2431@CompuServe.COM> >Cc: Airen Hall , Eva Nilsson >Subject: Quedlinburg > >Hej SCA > >Here's an opportunity for us to play and have a really fun time at it. >It has come to my notice through a Hanau military connection that the city >fathers of >Quedlinburg, Germany, located in the Harz, would be truly interested in SCA >participation >in the city's celebration of its medieval history. The program as= explained to >me begins at >Easter weekend and culminates at Pfingstin (Penticost Sunday) 16-19 May. = It is >the May >date that has possibilities for us. There is a large park area that would = be >available for us >to set up a PERIOD encampment as exhibit for the city residents to view. I >explained to >the contact that May was an incredibly full month for the SCA but would put= out >the >word..There needs to be a quick response to this as the contact at Quedlinb= urg >needs to >know how much space to plan for the encampment. > >Quedlinburg is a 1000 year old city that claims itself as the birthplace of= the >German >nation: the hub from which the realm of the German Kings and Emperors of S= axon >descent evolved. It was also joined with the Hanseatic League in 1426. >In 1994 >the town >was recognized as a UNESCO World Heritage Site. The oldest timber-frame ho= use >in >Germany dating from about 1350 is found there. At its highpoint in history= the >Holy >Roman Emperor, Otto I, held Easter Holy Days court in Q. Delegations from = the >leading >houses of Europe, the Vatican, and the Byzantine Emperor were in attendance= . >For its >brief shining time in history it was the capital of the western world. = This is >what the city >fathers would like to re-create. > >>From what I've seen of the tourist literature this looks like a great city= to >play in. Besides >the Schloss there are museums, Galleries, and churches (the Quedlinburg >medieval >treasures) and many guided walks throughout the city environs. For the >fortification >minded there is Falkenstein Castle. > >Hanau Outdoor Recreation is planning a trip over Easter weekend and I will >check >out the >town then. > >If any of you are interested, especially artists (martial types), smiths wi= th >portable forges, >spinners/weavers/embroiderers, leather workers, etc., etc., who would be >willing >to set up >live displays...here's an opportunity. > >At this point I'm working as mediator...whose area is this in?? and would y= ou >like to take >over as point of contact for SCA? > >Please accept my poor German transcribed for you here from the city pamphle= t: > >Quedlinburg "Strasse der Romanik" Der erste deutsche Koenig, Heinrich I., >findet 936 >seine letzte Ruhe in der Krypta der Quedlingurger Stiftskirche St. Servatiu= s. >Dieser >"Dom" zeigt sich heute im wesentlichen in seiner 1129 geweihten form. Um 1= 320 >wird >ein gotischer Chor angefueght, im 19 Jarhundert die geamte Kirchenanlage >umfassent >restauriert. Original sind die Relieffriese, nach lombardischen >Vorbildern, mit >einer Fuelle >ornamentaler Motive: Tiere, Pflanzen, Knoten. Durch das aelteste deutsche >Saelenportal >im noerdlichen Seitenschiff gelangt man in einen der schoensten hochromanis= chen >Kirchenraeume. Zu den Sehenswuerdigkeiten zaelt der wiedererlangte Domscha= tz >mit >dem Evangeliar un den Reliquiaren. > >If you're interested especially if this is in your backyard, give me a call= at >+40 (0)6048-950035 so I may pass on the info. Hopefully our merchants will= be >welcome also. > >In service to Drachenwald > >Lady Mairghread of Meadowmarsh >mka >Peggy Lynn > From nordmark-request Tue Mar 4 19:13:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mailb.telia.com (root@mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07717 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:13:19 +0100 Received: from d1o3.telia.com (root@d1o3.telia.com [194.22.192.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA06575 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:13:17 +0100 Received: from [194.22.192.81] (t5o3p12.telia.com [194.22.192.81]) by d1o3.telia.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00570 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:13:14 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: u86400466@m1.864.telia.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:14:09 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: eva@ebnilsson.pp.se (Eva Nilsson) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sv=E4rd?= Status: O Hej Jag fick nedanst=E5ende i brevl=E5dan. Mary We are swordmakers from Toledo (Spain) (Europe) We are looking for distributors or wholesalers for ours products in your Country. Could you help us ? We have more than 90 types of swords. Our adress is : http://www.intercom.es/espadas I=92m waiting your news. Best Regards. Miguel Angel Garcia Maeso From nordmark-request Tue Mar 4 22:33:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mailc.telia.com (root@mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA14454 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:33:00 +0100 Received: from d1o6.telia.com (root@d1o6.telia.com [194.236.187.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA07852 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:32:58 +0100 Received: from t2o25p44.telia.com (t2o25p44.telia.com [195.198.160.104]) by d1o6.telia.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA04097 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:32:56 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:32:56 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199703042132.WAA04097@d1o6.telia.com> X-Sender: u31700719@m1.317.telia.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: silverfisken Subject: Rotting Status: O Hej. Av n=E5gra mail att d=F6ma s=E5 verkar det vara lite rotting-torka i= Nordmark. Det =E4r det inte i Gotvik. H=E4r hade vi =E5tminstone i somras en snubbe med= ett sl=F6jdf=F6retag som s=E5lde rotting av kaliber 30-32 mm. Priset var d=E5 98= kronor kilot, vilket blir ungef=E4r 60 kronor per meter. Tyv=E4rr s=E5 var han inte= s=E5 sugen p=E5 att ta in gr=F6vre rotting, men om flera personer tj=F6tar lite= p=E5 honom s=E5 kanske han fattar att det finns en marknad. Men den rottingen som han redan har =E4r perfekt till sv=E4rd och dylikt. Tyv=E4rr dock en aning= f=F6r klen f=F6r l=E4ngre prylar, typ spjut och p=E5lvapen.=20 Intresserad? Kontakta i s=E5 fall: Hissingens Sl=F6jdshop, tele 031-22 29 20 Jag vet inte om de s=E4ljer per postorder. Om inte s=E5 kan man ju prata med n=E5gon i Gotvik, typ v=E5r drots, Br=FCllan: Tele 031-209314 (hehehe). Han= =E4r en sn=E4ll och hj=E4lpsam s=E4lle... MVH Torkil, Gotvik. From nordmark-request Wed Mar 5 02:46:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from df.lth.se (root@oberon.df.lth.se [194.47.252.39]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA21442 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:46:01 +0100 Received: from bartlet.df.lth.se(really [194.47.252.146]) by df.lth.se via smtpd with esmtp id for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:46:02 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 EDT 1996-Jul- #3 built 1996-Sep-25) Received: from rifts.df.lth.se (rifts.df.lth.se [194.47.250.42]) by bartlet.df.lth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA26115 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:45:56 +0100 Message-ID: <331CD0C2.543D@cyberjunkie.com> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 02:47:46 +0100 From: Brian of Lindisfarne Reply-To: lindisfarne@cyberjunkie.com Organization: Shire of Attemark X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nordmark Mailinglista Subject: Lady Raven Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by bartlet.df.lth.se id CAA26115 Status: O Lady Raven, Attemarks drots har en egen Email adress: mette@trust-me.com T=E4nkte bara ber=E4tta det f=F6r alla s=E5 att jag slipper vidarebefodra alla brev till henne p=E5 disk! Lev v=E4l! Brian of Lindisfarne --=20 Patrik Nilsson (SCA: Brian of Lindisfarne) =20 Email: lindisfarne@cyberjunkie.com ICQ#337287 =20 URL: http://www.df.lth.se/~pat/index.html TIP#2306 =20 -=3D-Teamleader Nilfisk Nailers Paintball Team-=3D- From nordmark-request Wed Mar 5 08:03:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from eagle.ffa.se (firewall-user@eagle.ffa.se [193.180.254.1]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28064 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 08:03:31 +0100 Received: by eagle.ffa.se; id IAA18931; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 08:28:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from jorpc.ffa.se(192.168.1.143) by eagle.ffa.se via smap (V3.1) id xma018892; Wed, 5 Mar 97 08:27:43 +0100 Received: (from jor@localhost) by jorpc.ffa.se (8.7.5/8.6.9) id IAA02114 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 08:03:06 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: jor@ffa.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 08:00:41 +0100 (MET) From: Rikard Johnels To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: RE:=?iso8859-1?Q?_Sv=E4rd?= Status: O On 04-Mar-97 Eva Nilsson wrote: >Hej > >Jag fick nedanst=E5ende i brevl=E5dan. > >Mary > > >We are swordmakers from Toledo (Spain) (Europe) >We are looking for distributors or wholesalers for ours products in your >Country. >Could you help us ? > >We have more than 90 types of swords. > >Our adress is : > http://www.intercom.es/espadas > >I=92m waiting your news. Best Regards. > > Miguel Angel Garcia Maeso Visst! Fina men "flashiga"... Om priserna st=E4mmer, BILLIGA! Synd att de inte har =E4ldre typer... (typ viking eller enkla "riddar sv= =E4rd") ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Rikard Johnels Date: 05-Mar-97 Time: 08:03:05 ---------------------------------- The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues. -- Elizabeth Taylor From nordmark-request Wed Mar 5 09:52:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from kiev.physchem.kth.se (kiev.physchem.kth.se [130.237.52.63]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA00941 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:52:32 +0100 Received: by kiev.physchem.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/4.0) id AA07873; Wed, 5 Mar 97 09:52:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 09:52:31 +0100 From: Susanne Graslund Message-Id: <9703050852.AA07873@kiev.physchem.kth.se> To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: SCA-evenemang Status: O Hej alla glada prathogare! Jag var pa SCA-evenemang i helgen, Aros universitet narmare bestamt, och det var mitt forsta pa flera ar. Jag var framst dar for att halla en kurs i medeltids- och renassansmusik, men stannade forstas till hovet och den efterfoljande banketten. Det var jattekul att traffa alla gamla vanner igen och jag blev intresserad av att aka pa nagot mer. Det enda jag saknade var musik under och dans efter festen, trots att det fanns massor av begavade manniskor pa plats. De flesta resonerar nog som jag att man vill ta det lugnt under sjalva banketten och sitta ned och njuta av mat och sallskap. Det basta vore nog om autokrater i forvag avtalade med musiker och dansledare om att fixa ihop nagot. Jag tror att det finns flera som kan tanka sig forhoja stamningen med musik och annat, kanske mot en reducerad kostnad for maten eftersom man bevisligen inte hinner ata sa mycket om man spelar under hela middagen. Jag har ju for lange sedan slutat att spela med min gamla grupp "Antiqui Soni/ Alruna", men har nufortiden massor av andra spelkontakter. Vi skulle garna aka och spela pa nagon fest, framst bakgrundsmusik. Fragan ar bara vad det finns for evenemang pa gang. Helst skulle det vara i Stockholmstrakten nagon gang under varen. Sa nu ar min fraga, vilka evenemang kommer att hallas i var, bade Nordmarks- och Nordrikes- (forutom Dubbel-resp. knackebrodskriget)? Eftersom jag inte langre prenumererar pa nagon tidning lever jag sorgligt ovetande om dylika ting. M v musik-h / Bronia Mansdotter Horn From nordmark-request Wed Mar 5 11:30:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from eagle.ffa.se (firewall-user@eagle.ffa.se [193.180.254.1]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03919 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:30:52 +0100 Received: by eagle.ffa.se; id LAA25435; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:55:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from jorpc.ffa.se(192.168.1.143) by eagle.ffa.se via smap (V3.1) id xma025422; Wed, 5 Mar 97 11:55:10 +0100 Received: (from jor@localhost) by jorpc.ffa.se (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA03907; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 11:30:27 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: jor@ffa.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <331D459B.7182@swipnet.se> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 11:24:22 +0100 (MET) From: Rikard Johnels To: mimers.brunn@swipnet.se, nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re:=?iso8859-1?Q?__Sv=E4rd?= Cc: Frank&Kristin Status: O On 05-Mar-97 Frank&Kristin wrote: >Rikard Johnels wrote: >> > >> >We are swordmakers from Toledo (Spain) (Europe) > > >> Visst! Fina men "flashiga"... >> Om priserna st=E4mmer, BILLIGA! >> Synd att de inte har =E4ldre typer... (typ viking eller enkla "riddar sv= =E4rd") > >H=E5ller med om flashigheten. Man borde kanske till och med utf=E4rda en >varning till alla som tycker dom =E4r fina... > >Dessa sv=E4rd =E4r typiskt s=E5dana du hittar i turistshopen p=E5 Mallorca= >o.s.v. Dom g=E5r i princip inte att anv=E4ndatill n=E5got annat =E4n att h= =E4nga >p=E5 v=E4ggen och impa p=E5 kompisens ungar n=E4r dom kommer och h=E4lsar = p=E5. > >Men det =E4r v=E4l upp till var och en vad man vill ha f=F6r "kvalle" p= =E5 sina >prylar. /R=F6de, Juneborg Folk h=E4r i Stockholm (och alla p=E5 bes=F6k) kan ju bes=F6ka den (=F6)k= =E4nda affelif=E4ren "Fantasia" p=E5 Kungsgatan. Om man p=E5pekar att deras sv=E4rd I MONTERN (a= llts=E5 inte de som st=E5r i st=E4llet) =E4r f=F6r flashiga och att man letar efter ngt = mera=20 "utilit=E4rt" s=E5 kan det h=E4nda att man f=E5r komma upp p=E5 =F6verv=E5n= ingan och kolla! D=E4r finns det b=E4ttre saker f=F6r SCA sammanhang. Handsmidda (vad man nu= menar med=20 det i dessa tider) italienska replika sv=E4rd. Jag har kollat in dem ett an= tal=20 g=E5nger och tycker att de =E4r klart mycket b=E4ttre =E4n "flash-line"... /Iain MacCallum (member of the Virtual Guard) /-------------------------------- / mailto:im@hem.passagen.se =20 / http://hem.passagen.se/im/ =20 /-------------------------------- From nordmark-request Thu Mar 6 10:07:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.Kemi.UU.SE [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11168 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:07:16 +0100 Received: from oopc40 (oopc40.Kemi.UU.SE) by akka.kemi.uu.se with SMTP id AA03504 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:04:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:04:20 +0100 Message-Id: <199703060904.AA03504@akka.kemi.uu.se> X-Sender: frithiof@akka X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: LeEu@celsiustech.se From: Sven Noren Subject: Ordnar Cc: Nordmark@Ludd.LuTH.SE Status: O Rapport fr=E5n hans excellens Marcus Lawless O'Tooles hov vid Aros' Universitet 1 Mars 1997: Helwig Ulfsdotter tilldelades Gyllene bandet. Tillk=E4nnagavs att f=F6ljande utdelats vid Estrella Wars: Sigismund J=E4ger, Award of Arms/Sk=F6ldebrev Arngrim bj=F6rnsson, Vita portens v=E4ktare Rapport fr=E5n deras majest=E4ter Elffin och Vannas hov vid Aros'= universitet 1 Mars 1997: Knight of the SCA Johann Berndt Order of the Laurel Catrin Jehana Gwynystlum Order of the Silver Guard Egil Klove Awards of Arms Murdoch Fizlit-Onzar bint Tin-hinan Kel Rela Isabel du Talus Farouk Frithiof the Friendly Herald :-)[X] From nordmark-request Thu Mar 6 19:09:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from churchill.ts.umu.se (root@churchill.ts.umu.se [130.239.18.141]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26475 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:09:26 +0100 Received: from ffv (ipcs6-15.modem.umu.se [130.239.8.229]) by churchill.ts.umu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA03996 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:10:01 GMT Message-ID: <331F07D4.AE8@ts.umu.se> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 19:07:16 +0100 From: urban Reply-To: ffv@ts.umu.se Organization: pedalogiska institutet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: annons om Furste/Ståthållartornering References: <331621F5.7168@ts.umu.se> <331623C6.82@ts.umu.se> <33162468.45A0@ts.umu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O urban wrote: > > urban wrote: > > > > urban wrote: > > > > > > Furste/Ståthållar tornering tillika Lövsprickningsfest. > > > > > > OYEA ! OYEA ! Hälsningar till de kända världen! > > > Härmed har vi i UMA den stora äran att inbjuda er alla till vår femte > > > årliga Lövsprickningsfest. Denna kommer i år dessutom att vara Nordmarks > > > Furste/Ståthållar tornering. Den kommer att gå av stapeln helgen 30 maj > > > till 1a juni A.S.XXXI (1997), på en plats fem mil söder Umeå som heter > > > Olofsfors Bruk. Under helgen kommer det att vara många aktiviteter bla > > > bågskytte, lekar och en tornering till vårens lov på söndags > > > eftermiddagen. På platsen finns det möjlighet att slå upp sina medeltida > > > paviljonger så ta med dem, om ni nu inte har ett tält så finns det > > > annars gott om utrymme inomhus (golv) att sova på. Om ni inte har lust > > > att sova på golvet så kan man hyra rum på Restaurang Herrgården i > > > Olofsfors (läs siten) dessa kostar från 100kr bädden och uppåt. > > > Siten öppnar 1500 fredag och stänger 1700 söndag. > > > Vad kostar det då att delta. > > > > > > Hela helgen med all mat 310 kr. > > > > > > Sitefee 80 kr/pers (platshyra) > > > Middag fredag 30 kr > > > Frukost lör/sön 15 kr/st > > > Lunch lör/sön 30 kr/st > > > Bankett 120 kr > > > Offboard 20 kr > > > För sen eller utebliven bokning 50 kr extra > > > > > > Betala till Nordmarks pg 340700-4 skriv vad ni betalar för på talongen. > > > > > > Skriftlig anmälan till autokraterna senast den 15 maj. Var vänlig och > > > meddela oss om eventuella allergier eller andra önskemål. > > > Väldresserade husdjur tillåtna på området men säg till innan ni kommer. > > > > > > Hur man tar sig till festen. > > > Med bil från söder kör E4 mot Umeå kör tills ni ser skylt Nordmaling var > > > därefter uppmärksamma på skyltar (röda m vit text) SCA följ dessa till > > > siten. Från norr passera Umeå när ni kört fem mil kommer ni till > > > Nordmaling följ sedan skyltningen som ovan. > > > > > > Med tåg till Umeå: Gå snett höger över gatan till Busstationen ta bussen > > > till Nordmaling vid busshålplatsen där kommer hämtning varje halvtimme > > > från 1500 fredag fram till sista bussen fredag kväll. > > > Med buss: Åk till hållplats Nordmaling därefter se ovan ang hämtning. > > > Med flyg: Tag flygbussen in till busstationen följ därefter > > > anvisningarna för tågresenärer. > > > > > > Om ni vill bli hämtade i Umeå meddela detta i er anmälan och var beredda > > > att betala lite bensinpengar. > > > > > > Vår adress är Urban Lidgren Grubbevägen 50, 903 54 Umeå. > > > adress till siten är Herrgården Olofsfors 914 91 Nordmaling > > > > > > Telnr: > > > Urban Lidgren 090-77 13 69 e-mail ffv@ts.umu.se > > > Lars Demby och Jenny Lindèn 090-14 85 80 > > > Olofsfors Herrgård 0930-101 00 > > > > > > Vi Autokrater önskar er alla välkomna till en upplevelse i drömmen. > > > > ps lokalen är våt festeen From nordmark-request Thu Mar 6 22:55:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mb01.swip.net (mb01.swip.net [193.12.122.81]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03689 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:55:59 +0100 Received: from mimers.brunn.janus.swipnet.se (dialup144-4-6.swipnet.se [130.244.144.66]) by mb01.swip.net (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA13052; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:55:39 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <331F38FD.18B@swipnet.se> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 22:39:09 +0100 From: Frank&Kristin Reply-To: mimers.brunn@swipnet.se Organization: Mimers Brunn X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Ringsparr CC: vestre@netg.se, Tom Isaksson , ep96dato@konrad.hj.se, torkelsryd@habo.mail.telia.com, =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6ren?= Bengtsson , pelle.svensson@swipnet.se, Sven.Noren@kemi.UU.SE, per.olofsson@mbox303.swipnet.se, SMS/Totalljud , "SCA-\"Grabbarna\" i Gotvik" , rojo@passagen.se, Roger Antoniev , robert.jonsson@swipnet.se, Nordmarks Mailinglist , Mats =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bergstr=F6m?= , Maria Markenroth , Lena Javette , Leif Bergman , Lake , Klas =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C5keskog?= , kjell@jkpg.sr.se, kjell , skep@algonet.se, Karin Karlsson , Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derqvist?= , Jojo , johan79@hotmail.com, Jim Reilly , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Islansh=E4stars?= Mailinglista , Hycken , Gotviks Webmaster , eva@ebnilsson.pp.se, Daniel Larsson , Boel Dittmer , Arne Olsen , Andreas Ringsparr , Anders =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nordstr=F6m?= , "\"Simon\"" Subject: ny adress Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: O Hojj! Som en del kanske har m=E4rkt, s=E5 har Frank(R=F6de) & Kristin(Liv= ) flyttat. Ni som inte noterat det f=E5r nu h=E4r info Frank Isaksson & Kristin Andersson =D6stra Storgatan 159 554 52 J=D6NK=D6PING tel:036-12 47 52 (samma) mimers.brunn@swipnet.se s=E5 nu kan ni n=E5 oss p=E5 alla s=E4tt!!! Tufft va! Ni som h=E5ller i prenumeraioner och adresslistor och s=E5nt d=E4r vi =E4= r med kanske har lust att uppdatera dom nu d=E5? med v=E4nliga h=E4lsningar /Frank & Kristin From nordmark-request Fri Mar 7 06:34:34 1997 Return-Path: <<@goliat.dc.luth.se:sirjon@netcom.com>> Received: from goliat.dc.luth.se (root@goliat.dc.luth.se [130.240.12.20]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA12973 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:34:33 +0100 Received: from sirjon@netcom14.netcom.com by goliat.dc.luth.se with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.2.8-NS) id AA10532; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 06:34:31 +0100 Received: (from sirjon@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id VAA19212; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:32:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 21:32:25 -0800 (PST) From: John Edgerton Subject: IKAC XX new rules Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Apparently-To: Status: O Interkingom Archery Competitions The twentieth annual shooting of the Interkingdom Archery Competition and the Tenth of the the Interkingdom Combat Archery Competition will begin April 1. PERIOD DIVISION RULE CHANGES There have been changes to the Period division rules. Modern style recurves or longbows with full or partial cut windows in the riser are no longer allowed. This changes the bonus points to 5 per cent for making either your bow or arrows. And 10 per cent for making both. In scoring. Four points are given for a pass through or a bounce back. If you wish a copy of the rules, email to sirjon@netcom.com If you would also like to be added to the email list for ikac/ikcac standings and other information of interest to archers, please request to be added and include your kingdom. Sir Jon Fitz-Rauf, Keeper of the IKAC and IKCAC sirjon@netcom.com From nordmark-request Fri Mar 7 08:43:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from glacier.wise.edt.ericsson.se (glacier-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [193.180.251.38]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14902 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:42:59 +0100 From: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from edt02.ericsson.se (edt02.ericsson.se [136.225.9.4]) by glacier.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-0.9) with ESMTP id IAA16026 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:42:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc-mail.ericsson.se by eds.ericsson.se (PMDF V5.0-6 #16175) id <01IG7QXQA79C90MXTU@eds.ericsson.se> for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Fri, 07 Mar 1997 08:41:22 +0100 Received: by pc-mail.ericsson.se via MsMail with Mimetic; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:44 +0100 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 20:44 +0100 Subject: SCA-armored-combat mailing lista To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Message-id: <01IG7QXQAGWI90MXTU@eds.ericsson.se> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Status: O Hejsan allihop. 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To unsubscribe from the list and subscribe to the Digest, send an e-mail to majordomo@eden.com with the following lines in the BODY of the message: unsubscribe sca-armored-combat subscribe sca-armored-combat-digest You should receive a message telling you that you are unsubscribed. Another message saying you are subscribed to the Digest should follow in the next 24 hours. From nordmark-request Fri Mar 7 09:12:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from allgon.se (mail.allgon.se [194.213.67.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15446 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:12:26 +0100 Received: by gw.allgon.se id <3976>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:11:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:11:00 +0100 From: "Kurtson, Fredrik" To: nordmark@Ludd.LuTH.SE Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?urs=E4kta?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_fr=E5gan?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_h=E4r,?= men.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <97Mar7.091149gmt+0100.3976@gw.allgon.se> Status: O ... vet n=E5gon h=E4r VAR man kan v=E4nda sig om man vill f=E5 ig=E5ng en=20 mailinglista? /Archie P.S. F=F6r =F6vrigt kan jag meddela att jag och Marie fick en liten dotter den= =20 24:e feb, som har f=E5tt namnet _Tara_ Annie Jean Kurtson D.S. From nordmark-request Fri Mar 7 10:33:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from allgon.se (gw.allgon.se [194.213.67.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17082 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:33:07 +0100 Received: by gw.allgon.se id <3980>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:32:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:32:00 +0100 From: "Kurtson, Fredrik" To: nordmark@Ludd.LuTH.SE Subject: VB: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?urs=E4kta?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_fr=E5gan?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_h=E4r,?= men.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <97Mar7.103230gmt+0100.3980@gw.allgon.se> Status: O N=E4, det =E4r inte jobbet, och det =E4r inte medeltid. det =E4r bara jag som = vill=20 ha en lista d=E4r vi polare som skickar mail kors och tv=E4rs och talar om at= t=20 ikv=E4ll =E4r det pub afton,, fyller =E5r=3Dk=E4k eller s=E5, sitter och fylle= r i 15=20 namn varje g=E5ng (och det =E4r ett par brev i veckan) s=E5 jag vill ha en=20 mailinglista type friends@kasdfkgfs.se Att det skall tas kontakt med n=E5gon som har en listserv hade jag ocks=E5=20 klurat ut, fr=E5gan var om n=E5gon hade en l=E4mplig att f=F6resl=E5. /Archie ---------- Fr=E5n: Par Leijonhufvud Till: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Ang=E5ende: Re: urs=E4kta fr=E5gan h=E4r, men.... Datum: den 7 mars 1997 10,11 On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Kurtson, Fredrik wrote: > ... vet n=E5gon h=E4r VAR man kan v=E4nda sig om man vill f=E5 ig=E5ng en > mailinglista? Du beh=F6ver kontakt med n=E5pon som har listserv, majordomo, eller liknande snurrrande p=E5 sin k=E4rra. Om det r=F6r SCA eller Nordrike i Sverige kanske den kan komma med p=E5 samma st=E4lle som NML. Annars kan du ju alltid kolla med din ISP (eller =E4r det jobbet?). > P.S. F=F6r =F6vrigt kan jag meddela att jag och Marie fick en liten dotter d= en=20 > 24:e feb, som har f=E5tt namnet _Tara_ Annie Jean Kurtson D.S. Gratulerar. H=E4lsa modern. /P=E4r-UlfR -- Par Leijonhufvud par.leijonhufvud@labtek.ki.se I hate fanatics with a passion; all extremists should be shot. From nordmark-request Fri Mar 7 11:12:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from allgon.se (gw.allgon.se [194.213.67.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17979 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:12:48 +0100 Received: by gw.allgon.se id <3973>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:12:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:11:00 +0100 From: "Kurtson, Fredrik" To: parlei@ki.se, nordmark@Ludd.LuTH.SE Subject: SV: Re: VB: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?urs=E4kta?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_fr=E5gan?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_h=E4r,?= men. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <97Mar7.111216gmt+0100.3973@gw.allgon.se> Status: O Grejen =E4r att alla inte kan ha kortnamn, jag har, men inte alla. grejen =E4r inte DET, utan jag vill veta VAR jag kan f=E5 en mailinglista!!!!=20= (utan n=E5gra orsaker, vill jag ha en lista s=E5 vill jag ha en lista!!!) /F ---------- Fr=E5n: Par Leijonhufvud (reply to: parlei@ki.se) Till: fredrik.kurtson@allgon.se Ang=E5ende: Re: VB: Re: urs=E4kta fr=E5gan h=E4r, men.... Datum: den 7 mars 1997 10,41 On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Kurtson, Fredrik wrote: > > N=E4, det =E4r inte jobbet, och det =E4r inte medeltid. det =E4r bara jag so= m vill=20 > ha en lista d=E4r vi polare som skickar mail kors och tv=E4rs och talar om=20= att > ikv=E4ll =E4r det pub afton,, fyller =E5r=3Dk=E4k eller s=E5, sitter och fyl= ler i 15 > namn varje g=E5ng (och det =E4r ett par brev i veckan) s=E5 jag vill ha en > mailinglista type friends@kasdfkgfs.se L=E5ter som vad du beh=F6ver =E4r ett kortnamn i din mailer (vad anv=E4nder du= ?). Funkar utm=E4rkt f=F6r mindre grupper av n=E5gots=E5n=E4r insatta folk. /P=E4r-UlfR -- Par Leijonhufvud par.leijonhufvud@labtek.ki.se I hate fanatics with a passion; all extremists should be shot. From nordmark-request Fri Mar 7 11:41:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from eagle.ffa.se (firewall-user@eagle.ffa.se [193.180.254.1]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18709 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:41:27 +0100 Received: by eagle.ffa.se; id MAA06320; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:07:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from jorpc.ffa.se(192.168.1.143) by eagle.ffa.se via smap (V3.1) id xma006316; Fri, 7 Mar 97 12:07:11 +0100 Received: (from jor@localhost) by jorpc.ffa.se (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA01526; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:41:19 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: jor@ffa.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <97Mar7.091149gmt+0100.3976@gw.allgon.se> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 11:39:45 +0100 (MET) From: Rikard Johnels To: "Kurtson, Fredrik" Subject: RE:=?iso8859-1?Q?_urs=E4kta?= =?iso8859-1?Q?_fr=E5gan?= =?iso8859-1?Q?_h=E4r,?= men.... Cc: nordmark@Ludd.LuTH.SE Status: O On 07-Mar-97 Kurtson, Fredrik wrote: > >... vet n=E5gon h=E4r VAR man kan v=E4nda sig om man vill f=E5 ig=E5ng en= =20 >mailinglista? > >/Archie > >P.S. F=F6r =F6vrigt kan jag meddela att jag och Marie fick en liten dotter= den=20 >24:e feb, som har f=E5tt namnet _Tara_ Annie Jean Kurtson D.S. F=F6r den nyf=F6dda och de lyckliga f=F6r=E4ldrarna: VIVAT! VIVAT! VIVAT! Med varma h=E4lsningar... /Iain MacCallum (aka. Rikatd Johnels) /-------------------------------- / mailto:im@hem.passagen.se =20 / http://hem.passagen.se/im/ =20 /-------------------------------- From nordmark-request Sun Mar 9 21:06:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mail.wineasy.se (mail.wineasy.se [193.12.69.1]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA02809 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 21:06:49 +0100 Received: from mail.wineasy.se by mail.wineasy.se (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id ca253606 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 21:02:50 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970309200648.006889a8@mail.wineasy.se> X-Sender: gilliam@mail.wineasy.se X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 21:06:48 +0100 To: jaymin@maths.tcd.ie From: Anders Olsson Subject: membership forms on line (DML) Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Status: O Greetings all, I got this from the web-guild and I thought it might be of interest. /Gilliam >Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:15:51 -0800 >From: Dale Harris >To: SCA Web Folks , web-guild@sca.org, questions@sca.org >Subject: membership forms on line > >We have the membership forms on line now, they are available via: > >http://www.sca.org/members > >and there is a link to that page off of the top page. > > >Wolfgang > ************************************************************ Anders Olsson SCA: Gilliam Blackhorn gilliam@wineasy.se http://www.users.wineasy.se/gilliam/ (work: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se) From nordmark-request Mon Mar 10 09:48:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16269 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:48:08 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA13842 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:50:19 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:53:33 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Christer Carlsson (by way of Jan Frelin) Subject: Linne Status: O Hej! Jag seg att Linneverkstan (Odengatan ndra korsningen Roslagsgatan) som sdljer linnetyg i metervara har 50-70% rea pga rvkskador. Kanske intressant fvr SCA-iter? mvh Christer From nordmark-request Wed Mar 12 06:11:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from ki.se (mbox.ki.se [130.237.207.77]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA26428 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 06:11:24 +0100 Received: by ki.se id AA05087 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for NML ); Wed, 12 Mar 1997 06:12:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 06:12:33 +0200 (METDST) From: Par Leijonhufvud Subject: Viking Festival (fwd) To: NML Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O Den som hade pengar... /UlfR -- Par Leijonhufvud par.leijonhufvud@labtek.ki.se=20 "Verbing weirds language." -- Calvin ---------- Forwarded message ---------- To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Viking Festival News-item from 2/25/97 Iceland Review=20 (apologies; but yes, "horned-helmeted Norsemen" is in this quote,=20 so I had to include it :) ): Second International Viking Festival in Hafnarfj=F6rdur Around 500 men and women from all over Europe will step back in time to participate in the second International Viking Festival at Hafnarfjordur, southwest Iceland July 9-13. Besides those taking part, it is estimated that the=20 festival will attract a further 20,000 visitors, making=20 it Iceland's largest tourist attraction of the year.=20 The Viking Age was one of the most important periods in the history of man. Epic voyages of discovery were made as the fearless horn-helmeted Norsemen took to the seas in their longships. The Vikings, contrary to popular belief, were a peaceful people. They were certainly great craftsmen, storytellers, chroniclers, and farmers who placed their fate in the hands of Gods such as Odin and Th=F3r. The festival aims to capture and evoke the spirit of that era. "The theme of the festival is to show how people worked with wood, bone, horn, animal skin and flax. It is intended to be a learning experience," says R=F6gnvaldur Gudmundsson, the Festival's director. Praised for the thoroughly authentic Viking market and village set up at the first festival two summers ago, this=20 year's event will feature battle re-enactments, theatrical=20 presentations of scenes from the Sagas, horse shows,=20 wrestling and games. Other features and events may include pagan wedding ceremonies, sailing trips aboard Viking longboats, various "living history" exhibits, and lectures on various=20 aspects of the Viking culture. To further compliment the event and add a greater sense of history to the occassion is the planned visit of=20 a 100-strong flotilla from Norway commemorating Iceland's settlement in 874 by the West Norwegian Ing=F3lfur Arnarson.=20 From nordmark-request Thu Mar 13 11:19:29 1997 Return-Path: <<@nomina.lu.se:janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se>> Received: from nomina.lu.se (nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10245 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:19:29 +0100 Received: from janna2.kansli.lth.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA21709; Thu, 13 Mar 97 11:21:29 +0100 X-Sender: klth-jsp@pop.lu.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:19:14 +0200 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se (Janna G Spanne) Subject: Hoax control Status: O Eftersom det d=E5 och d=E5 dyker upp obefogade virusvarningar h=E4r p=E5 Pra= th=F6gen, liksom p=E5 de flesta andra listor, har jag kopierat en notis om s=E5dana ur Lunds Datacentrals infoblad. Jag ber om urs=E4kt om rutinerade datar=E4var som l=E4ser detta tycker att= det =E4r redundant trams som bara belamrar deras brevl=E5da. F=F6r n=E5got gr=F6nare anv=E4ndare =E4r det nog l=E4sv=E4rt. /Catrin >Virusrykten > >Man kan inte f=E5 virus genom att l=E4sa vanlig e-post. Om du k=E4nner till= det, >s=E5 >kan du avsl=F6ja m=E5nga av de virusrykten, som cirkulerar p=E5 Inter= net. > >"Good Times", "Penpal Greetings" och "Irina" =E4r n=E5gra exempel p=E5 viru= s, >som >bara =E4r rykten. Nedan =E4r ett exempel p=E5 vad som kan st=E5 i de >>e-post-meddelanden, som skickas ut: > > "A computer virus is being sent across the Internet. If you receive >an >e-mail message with the subject line "Irina", DO NOT read the message. >DELETE >it immediately. Some miscreant is sending people and files under >the title >"Irina". If you receive this mail or file, do not download it. >It has a virus >that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on >it. Please surf >carefully and forward this mail to anyone you care >about." > >Att din h=E5rddisk formateras pga att du l=E4ser ett meddelande =E4r allts= =E5 >>om=F6jligt. Du kan lugnt sl=E4nga meddelandet och du >b=F6r definitivt inte skicka det vidare till andra. > >N=E5got du d=E4remot b=F6r t=E4nka p=E5 =E4r att virus kan spridas genom= bilagor i >e-post. >Eftersom man kan skicka med program och Word-dokument som >bilagor, s=E5 =E4r detta >en m=F6jlig smittov=E4g. Om du har ett uppdaterat >antivirus-program p=E5 din >dator, kan du dock k=E4nna dig trygg =E4ven mot detta. > >F=F6r mer information om virus och rykten: > > http://www.drsolomon.com/vircen/ > http://www.datafellows.fi/news/hoax.htm > >Ulf Ros=E9n Lunds Datacentral notisen finns p=E5 http://www.ldc.lu.se/di/di_9703/virus.html *** *** From nordmark-request Thu Mar 13 13:59:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from kiev.physchem.kth.se (kiev.physchem.kth.se [130.237.52.63]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA15534 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:59:49 +0100 Received: by kiev.physchem.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/4.0) id AA00813; Thu, 13 Mar 97 13:59:44 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 13:59:44 +0100 From: Susanne Graslund Message-Id: <9703131259.AA00813@kiev.physchem.kth.se> To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Den lekande manniskan Status: O Hej alla! Ni missar val inte TV-dokumentaren "Den lekande manniskan" som gar pa SVT 2 kl. 20.00 ikvall?? Skulle ni gora det gar den i repris saval den 15/3 som den 19/3. Dokumentaren ar inspelad under fyra lajver under ht95-vt96; Toppmotet (nutid/framtid), Brustna illusioner (20-tal), Foreningen Visionara Vetenskaps- mans arliga kongress (nutid) samt Den Vita Lunden (medeltid/fantasy). Programmet ar gjort av Noomi Liljefors pa SVT. En intressant reflektion ur omvarldens ogon pa var hobby. Halsnigar Susanne/Bronia From nordmark-request Thu Mar 13 14:44:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mail.umu.se (dns.umu.se [130.239.8.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16729 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:44:04 +0100 Received: from [130.239.181.185] (judeline.cligen.umu.se [130.239.181.185]) by mail.umu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA11475 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:44:00 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:44:00 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: melkli@panther.cmb.umu.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Melker.Klingberg@cligen.umu.se (Melker =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E4ggbom?= Klingberg) Subject: Re: Den lekande manniskan Status: O >Hej alla! > >Ni missar val inte TV-dokumentaren "Den lekande manniskan" som gar pa SVT 2 >kl. 20.00 ikvall?? Skulle ni gora det gar den i repris saval den 15/3 som den >19/3. Dokumentaren ar inspelad under fyra lajver under ht95-vt96; Toppmotet >(nutid/framtid), Brustna illusioner (20-tal), Foreningen Visionara Vetenskaps- >mans arliga kongress (nutid) samt Den Vita Lunden (medeltid/fantasy). >Programmet >ar gjort av Noomi Liljefors pa SVT. En intressant reflektion ur omvarldens ogon >pa var hobby. > >Halsnigar Susanne/Bronia Jag har for mig att "Taxi" skall behandla rollspel ikvall. SVT kanske vill reda ut rollspelen ordentligt, en gang for alla. Hoppas bara att de drar ratt slutsatser..... Melker From nordmark-request Thu Mar 13 15:03:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mn1.swip.net (mn1.swip.net [192.71.180.97]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17383 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:03:38 +0100 From: torbjorn.sjostrom@teleperformance.se Received: by mn1.swip.net (8.8.2/2.01) id OAA29168; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:03:31 GMT Message-ID: <199703131403.OAA29168@mn1.swip.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:49:51 +0100 To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se, Susanne Graslund Subject: SV: Den lekande manniskan MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /220000000/220040256/220000378/220080244/ Status: O Men det =E4r ju Rederiet p=E5 andra kanalen! Eskil ---------- Fr=E5n: Susanne Graslund Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.Kemi.UU.SE [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA17538 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:08:38 +0100 Received: from oopc40 (oopc40.Kemi.UU.SE) by akka.kemi.uu.se with SMTP id AA09057 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:05:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:05:39 +0100 Message-Id: <199703131405.AA09057@akka.kemi.uu.se> X-Sender: frithiof@akka X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Nordmark@Ludd.LuTH.SE From: Sven Noren Subject: Re: Den lekande manniskan Status: O At 14.44 13-03-1997 +0100, Melker wrote: >Jag har for mig att "Taxi" skall behandla rollspel ikvall. SVT kanske vill >reda ut rollspelen ordentligt, en gang for alla. Hoppas bara att de drar >ratt slutsatser..... > Knappast: En av de inbjudna =E4r en mamma vars son sk=F6t av sig skallen med= en hagelb=F6ssa n=E4r han spelade KULT, och en annan =E4r en l=E4kare som vill= f=F6rbjuda rollspel helt och h=E5llet (han =E4r sm=E4rtl=E4kare, s=E5 han kan s=E5nt). Se artikel i g=E5rdagens Aftonbladet. Man undrar ju hur en 16=E5ring f=E5r tag i ett skjutklart hagelgev=E4r.... SvenN. From nordmark-request Fri Mar 14 07:40:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from ki.se (mbox.ki.se [130.237.207.77]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA11849 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:39:42 +0100 Received: by ki.se id AA08360 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for Nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:40:55 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:40:53 +0200 (METDST) From: Par Leijonhufvud Subject: Re: Den lekande manniskan Cc: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-Reply-To: <199703131405.AA09057@akka.kemi.uu.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Sven Noren wrote: > At 14.44 13-03-1997 +0100, Melker wrote: > Knappast: En av de inbjudna =E4r en mamma vars son sk=F6t av sig skallen = med en > hagelb=F6ssa n=E4r han spelade KULT, och en annan =E4r en l=E4kare som vi= ll f=F6rbjuda > rollspel helt och h=E5llet (han =E4r sm=E4rtl=E4kare, s=E5 han kan s=E5nt= ). =C4r detta samma l=E4kare (fr=E5n Ume=E5, har jag f=F6r mig) som f=F6r ett = tag sedan=20 skrev en artikel f=F6r L=E4kartidningen d=E4r han ans=E5g att om man fann a= tt=20 rollspel var skadliga borde dessa f=F6rbjudas, p=E5 samma grunder som=20 bilb=E4lten =E4r obligatoriska och vi har en "knivlag" (om jag kommer ih=E5= g=20 hans j=E4mf=F6relser korrekt)? Har han nu lyckats bevisa att de =E4r farlig= a? > Man undrar ju hur en 16=E5ring f=E5r tag i ett skjutklart hagelgev=E4r...= . Men det har v=E4l alla (16-=E5ringar) hemma...? :-) Jag gillar id=E9n att h= a med mamman; det blir "bra" TV p=E5 det s=E4ttet. Med lite tur blev det v=E4= l t=E5rar och desperata v=E4djanden till politikerna att ta sitt ansvar...=20 /P=E4r -- Par Leijonhufvud par.leijonhufvud@labtek.ki.se=20 Conspiracy for Repeal of Acronym Proliferation From nordmark-request Fri Mar 14 09:25:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from eagle.ffa.se (firewall-user@eagle.ffa.se [193.180.254.1]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13563 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:25:15 +0100 Received: by eagle.ffa.se; id JAA15734; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:54:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from jorpc.ffa.se(192.168.1.143) by eagle.ffa.se via smap (V3.1) id xma015722; Fri, 14 Mar 97 09:54:03 +0100 Received: (from jor@localhost) by jorpc.ffa.se (8.7.5/8.6.9) id JAA14698 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:24:43 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: jor@ffa.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:05:13 +0100 (MET) From: Rikard Johnels To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Live programmet... Status: O Jaha s=E5 var det Fredag igen... Tittade p=E5 dokument=E4ren ig=E5r, och =E4nev Taxi som f=F6ljde senare. Dokument=E4ren var v=E4lgjord tycker jag. Den tog upp det mesta med en f=F6rh=E5llandevis "pro live" vinkling. Jag tycker nog dock att=20 man kunde ha pekat p=E5 likheten med fri teater lite mer. Som det var nu blev det mest en bild av ett antal ungdomars flykt fr=E5n verkligheten... Men i det stora hela en v=E4lgjord dokument=E4r. Taxi som f=F6ljde var nog det mest patetiska jag sett p=E5 l=E4nge! Modern vars son tagit livet av sig, hde ingen som helst pejl p=E5 vad rollspel var. Vice VD p=E5 SVEROk (eller vad hon var...), var=20 inte s=E4rskilt bra p=E5 att framf=F6ra f=F6rbundets sak. Dock fick hon ur sig att "Vi =E4r f=F6r rollspelare vad Svenska Hockey F=F6rbundet =E4r f=F6r hockey spelare..." Den psykolog som var med var inte heller=20 s=E4rskilt s=E4ker p=E5 n=E5gonting. Det enda man var intresserad av att= =20 f=E5 fram var hur farligt det =E4r att spela rollspel. I synnerhet f=F6r= =20 personer med svaga jag k=E4nslor... Man f=F6rs=F6kte f=E5 fram att SVEROK borde ta ansvar f=F6r att folk ballad= e ur likt Svenka Hokey F=F6rbundet g=F6r med sina spelare. ???? Jag har=20 f=F6r mig att det finns "r=F6vare" och "r=F6t=E4gg" som f=F6rst=F6r f=F6r a= lla=20 andra =E4ven bland ungdomar som spelar hockey. Betyg:=20 Dokument=E4ren: 4+ (eller "a" f=F6r de =E4ldre) Taxi: 1 ("F" ???) /Iain MacCallum /-------------------------------- / mailto:im@hem.passagen.se =20 / http://hem.passagen.se/im/ =20 /-------------------------------- From nordmark-request Fri Mar 14 09:38:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from TFSSMTP (mail.riksdagen.se [194.52.83.51]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA13835 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:38:29 +0100 From: jonas.degerstrom@riksdagen.se Message-Id: <199703140838.JAA13835@zed.ludd.luth.se> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 9:38:14 +0100 To: Nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Star Wars feber MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /220000040/220120005/220030117/ Status: O Nu =E4r det inte m=E5nga dagar kvar till nypremi=E4ren av Star Wars. I v=E4= ntan kan vi=20 v=E4l sjunga en bit! Imperial Rhapsody (sung to the tune of Bohemian Rhapsoody, by Queen)=20 Lando: This is the good life This is a fantasy Working on Bespin An escape from Reality. Leia: Open your eyes Stand up to their guys and see. Luke: I'm just a farmboy, I need some sympathy Cus who's my dad, I dunno Little whine, little moan. Han: Anywhere the Force goes, doesn't really matter, to me=20 Piett: Vader just killed a man. Raised an arm up in the air Now his life is no longer there. Vader, we had just begun, And now I've gone and lost the reb-el scum. Vader, oooooooo. Did mean too make you mad If I'm not alive again this time tomorrow, There'll be a new admiral, as if nothing ever happened.=20 Yoda: Too late, my time has come, Sends shivers down my spine Body's aching all the time. Luke: Goodbye everybody, I've got to go Gootta leave you all behind and learn the Force. Piett: Vader, ooooooooooo, I don't wanna die I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all.=20 Luke: I see a little silhouetto of a man Palpatine, Palpatine, can it be the Emperor? Thunderbolts and lightning, very very hurting me! R2-D2, R2-D2, R2-D2, R2-D2, R2-D2, Where'd ya go? C-3PO O O O O O OH!=20 I'm just a farmboy, nobody loves me. Rebels: He's just a farmboy, with a dead family. Spare him this life of such mundacity! Han: Spice'll come, spice'll go. Jabba let me go. Jabba: Boo shuda! (NO, we will not let you go) Han: Let me go! Jabba: Bo shuda! (We will not let you go) Han: Let me go! Jabba: Bo shuda! (We will not let you go) Han: LET ME GO! Jabba: WILL NOT LET YOU GOO! Han: LET ME GO! Jabba: WILL NOT LET YOU GO! Han: LET ME GO! Jabba: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!=20 C-3PO: Oh R2-D2, R2-D2, R2-D2, Come along. Leia: C-3PO has a rebel put aside for meeee, for meeee. for MEEEEEEEEEE!=20 (Stormtroopers start headbanging)=20 Luke: So you say you're the dear old dad of mine? But you cut my hand off and left me to die! Oh Vader, can't do this to me, Vader. I know there's some good, I know there's still some good in you.=20 Obiwan: May the Force be with you. Use the Force to see. May the Force be with you, May the Force be with you, alwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaays.=20 Han: Anywhere the Force goes, doesn't really mat-ter, to meeeeeeeeeee. Impe= rial=20 Rhapsody Luke: So you say you're the dear old dad of mine? But you cut my hand off and left me to die! Oh Vader, can't do this to me, Vader. I know there's some good, I know there's still some good in you.=20 Obiwan: May the Force be with you. Use the Force to see. May the Force be with you, May the Force be with you, alwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaays.=20 Han: Anywhere the Force goes, doesn't really mat-ter, to meeeeeeeeeee.=20 Trevlig Helg =F6nskar Edmund aka Jonas From nordmark-request Fri Mar 14 13:35:30 1997 Return-Path: <<@nomina.lu.se:janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se>> Received: from nomina.lu.se (nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19482 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:35:29 +0100 Received: from janna2.kansli.lth.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA04463; Fri, 14 Mar 97 13:37:31 +0100 X-Sender: klth-jsp@pop.lu.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:35:14 +0200 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se (Janna G Spanne) Subject: Re: Live programmet... Status: O >... Det enda man var intresserad av att >f=E5 fram var hur farligt det =E4r att spela rollspel. I synnerhet f=F6r >personer med svaga jag k=E4nslor... Har sj=E4lv inte sett programmet och f=F6rresten h=F6r v=E4l den h=E4r= debatten bara med tvekan hemma p=E5 NML - =E5 andra sidan ifr=E5gas=E4tter okunniga= individer SCA med samma argument som de som riktas mot rollspel: verklighetsflykt, v=E5ld, skev identitetsk=E4nsla osv osv. En fundering som alltid dyker upp n=E4r s=E5dant h=E4r sl=E4pas runt i= tidningar o dyl: jag undrar vid vilken =E5lder rollspel enligt belackarna blir farligt. Jag menar, barn har i alla tider lekt med roller, ofta p=E5 ett v=E4ldigt genomarbetat s=E4tt, fr=E5n att leka aff=E4r =F6ver cowboys och indianer (gr=E4nspoliser och sabot=F6rer under min barndom i 1960-talets Tjeckoslovakien) till sagolekar med kungar, riddare och drakar som inte ligger s=E4rskilt l=E5ngt fr=E5n "riktig" fantasy. Det brukar psykologer och pedagoger mena =E4r bra och n=F6dv=E4ndigt f=F6r barnens psykiska utveckling= . Men n=E5gon g=E5ng i ton=E5ren ska man allts=E5 ha vuxit ifr=E5n det h=E4r= och bara =E4gna sig =E5t f=F6rberedelserna inf=F6r "marknadens" krav p=E5 en i arbets= livet, ja, och eventuellt lite idrott, motion =E4r ju nyttigt. Att d=E5 ocks=E5 motionera hj=E4rnan genom kreativa rollspel, det =E4r= suspekt och potentiellt farligt. D=E4remot, n=E4r man har stressat s=F6nder skallen i jobbet och b=F6rjar= komma upp i medel=E5ldern, d=E5 kan t o m arbetsgivaren hyra en konsult f=F6r 1500= sp=E4nn i timmen f=F6r att denne ska leda rollspel d=E4r de fastk=F6rda anst=E4llda= ska l=E4ra sig aggressionshantering och konfliktl=F6sning genom att tr=E4na sin fantasi= ... Jag f=E5r det inte riktigt att g=E5 ihop. M=F6jligtvis =E4r rollspelare farl= igt autonoma: de beh=F6ver inga pedagogutbildade fritidskonsulenter som ledare. De f=F6rbrukar heller inte dr=F6svis med Disney-prylar och annat krafs till upptrissade priser, och rollspelar till en m=E5ttlig kostnad n=E4r de borde sitta hemma och titta p=E5 reklam-tv, och =E4r d=E4rmed d=E5liga medborgare = i konsumtionssamh=E4llet. Och det kan ju aldrig vara bra!!! Jo, det finns rollspelare som det sl=E5r slint f=F6r. Liksom en del ishockeyspelare, fotbollsfantaster, bilf=F6rare, hemmafruar, poesil=E4sare, vegetarianer, utl=E4nningar, inf=F6dingar, folk under 25, folk =F6ver 45... D=E4remot har det s=E4llan n=E5gon enkel f=F6rklaring, trots vad medierna ib= land f=F6rs=F6ker sl=E5 i oss. /Catrin hobbyfilosof :-) PS: Om n=E5gon =E4r intresserad, kan vi forts=E4tta med det h=E4r temat via = enskild e-post, f=F6r att inte belamra Prath=F6gen. From nordmark-request Fri Mar 14 16:00:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mail.umu.se (dns.umu.se [130.239.8.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24194 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:00:19 +0100 Received: from [130.239.196.13] ([130.239.196.13]) by mail.umu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA29174 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:00:15 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:01:51 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jorgen.jonsson@umf.umu.se (Jorgen Jonsson) Subject: Re: Archery comititions (ikac/list) (fwd) Status: O Hejsan! =46ick detta f=F6r en liten stund sedan. Lite kul b=E5gskyttet=E4vlingar att= ha i sommar kanske? Trevlig helg Jurgen Danske >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 05:35:01 -0800 (PST) >From: John Edgerton >Subject: Re: Archery comititions (ikac/list) (fwd) >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:05:36 -0400 (EST) >From: Mike Bird >Subject: Re: Archery comititions (ikac/list) > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:03:02 EST >> From: Jim L Morrison >> >> I'm looking for information on "different" shoots to hold at Lilies. If >> you have any info on this please forward it to me. >> Different is defined as fun shoots suitable for 20-30 archers to >> complete in a hour and a half or less. >> Thanks.... > >Well, I am having the same search for our Schutzenfest event. This is the >list I've >come up with so far: >Bird - A bird effigy on a pole, if you have several sizes of poles, even >better. > You fire from quite near the base. >War Doors - You get a couple of war doors from the heavy weapons fighters >(these are > the LARGE sheilds that are occasionally used for showers!) and have an > archer huddled behind each one. When the call to shoot is given, the arch= er > has five (5!) seconds to leap out, loose two arrows, and get COMPLETELY > behind the shield again. >Castle - Make an enclosure out of wood that has enough space for an archer >to huddle > behind, and has only a small slit to shoot out of. Timed event. >Slit shoot - Take the contraption used in the Castle shoot, and put a >target where > the archer was. Archers then try to shoot INTO the slit >Ring (wreath) - take some wreaths (straw wreaths used in flower >arrangements will > work) of different diameters. Zero points for hitting the wreath, NEGATIV= E > points for hitting outside the wreaths, and positive points for hitting in= side > with the smaller diameters worth more than the larger. >Advancing Man - Two variations: > Static (ala Pennsic) - have targets set up every 5 yards or so. Timed > event where everyone starts by shooting the furthest target off, then > switches to progressively nearer targets as the count goes on. Higher > points for the further off targets. > Dynamic - Have a target mounted on a sled or wagon, with a rope which >goes through > two pulleys. One at the archer's feet, the other the same distance away > from the archer (although in a safe direction) as the target, then attach= es > to a harness which is worn by a fighter. A bell is placed near the arche= r. > When the signal is given, the archer looses arrows at the target while th= e > fighter runs towards the archer. When the fighter reaches (and rings) th= e > bell, the shoot ends. As the fighter advances towards the archer, the > target does too. Kinda fun, shooting at a moving target. >Clout - A 70 yard range with a VERY large target. People have to shoot at >40+ degrees. >Water Bag - I have not done this at SCA. I have seen it done at my >archery club. Two > plastic baggies of water that are attached to each other via string over >a pulley. > When you shoot one, it starts to lose water. You have until the other >one hits > the ground to hit it. >"Travelling" target - Have a target (a mannikin in the livery of your >traditional foes > is usually good) mounted with a pulley on a taught wire. When a cable is >pulled, > the target moves. This could be combined with the dynamic advancing man >if you > wish. >Reverse Scoring - A lot of fun. Just take the standard target and reverse >the score > points. You'll be surprised at how hard it is to deliberately get a >large score. > >That's all I can think of at the moment. I will be attempting to >implement at least some >of these at the Barony of Nordskogen's Schutzenfest on May 31. See the >Web page (URL below) >for more details. I invite ALL SCA archers to attend! And I'd like to >put in a plug to >ask for marshals and M.I.T.s to volunteer. > >http://www.skypoint.com/members/mjbird/schutzenfest.html > >Yours, in service. >Umberto >-- >Name: Michael J. Bird >E-Mail: mjbird@clavdivs.mn.org >WWW: http://www.skypoint.com/~mjbird/ >SCA: Umberto della Foresta di Cento Ettari (in submission) >Telephone: (612) 470-4264 >U.S.Snail: 5520 Zumbra Lane > Excelsior, MN 55331-7714 >Quote: "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, > however, makes a life." -Arthur Ashe > From nordmark-request Mon Mar 17 08:56:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mail.umu.se (dns.umu.se [130.239.8.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07813 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:56:07 +0100 Received: from [130.239.181.185] (judeline.cligen.umu.se [130.239.181.185]) by mail.umu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA12134 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:56:03 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:56:03 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: melkli@panther.cmb.umu.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Melker.Klingberg@cligen.umu.se (Melker =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E4ggbom?= Klingberg) Subject: Re: Live programmet... Status: O > Vice VD p=E5 SVEROk (eller vad hon var...), var >inte s=E4rskilt bra p=E5 att framf=F6ra f=F6rbundets sak. Jag har pratat med grabben som stod bredvid henne: de var d=F6mda p=E5 f=F6r= hand av redaktionen! Tydligen s=E5 gjordes en debattomg=E5ng d=E4r rollspelarna s= varade alldeles f=F6r bra p=E5 anklagelserna. Ja, det hela urartade till en saklig diskussion utan pajkastning. D=E5 kom redaktionen och tog Lotta Bromme i =F6= rat "det h=E4r f=E5r ni g=F6ra om" och s=E5 gick det som det gick..... Ovanp=E5 detta s=E5 klipptes det lite grand mellan fr=E5gor och svar s=E5 om= n=E5gon tyckte att jockes svar p=E5 "vad =E4r syftet med rollspel ?" verkade en anin= g flummigt kan det ge honom en viss uppr=E4ttelse om man vet att de klippte in hans svar p=E5 fr=E5gan "vad handlar kult om ?" ("v=E4rlden =E4r en illusion= som vi m=E5ste f=E5 hj=E4lp att se igenom, etc, etc") Jag undrar om det inte =E4r =E5talbart att g=F6ra s=E5 ? Melker, l=E4tt irriterad (men inte p=E5 er). From nordmark-request Mon Mar 17 09:09:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA08074 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:09:40 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA19113 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:11:48 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:15:20 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jan Frelin Subject: Re: Live programmet... Status: O >Jag har pratat med grabben som stod bredvid henne: de var d=F6mda p=E5 f=F6= rhand >av redaktionen! Tydligen s=E5 gjordes en debattomg=E5ng d=E4r rollspelarna = svarade >alldeles f=F6r bra p=E5 anklagelserna. Ja, det hela urartade till en saklig >diskussion utan pajkastning. D=E5 kom redaktionen och tog Lotta Bromme i = =F6rat >"det h=E4r f=E5r ni g=F6ra om" och s=E5 gick det som det gick..... Det finns botemedel mot detta. Kr=E4v att bara f=E5 vara med i direkts=E4nda= program! Mvh, =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hartmann Rogge, Shire of Holmrike, Nordmark, Drachenwald Jan Frelin, Stockholm, Sweden jan.frelin@pub.mil.se From nordmark-request Mon Mar 17 09:09:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from eagle.ffa.se (firewall-user@eagle.ffa.se [193.180.254.1]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08081 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:09:44 +0100 Received: by eagle.ffa.se; id JAA19216; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:40:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from jorpc.ffa.se(192.168.1.143) by eagle.ffa.se via smap (V3.1) id xma019205; Mon, 17 Mar 97 09:40:29 +0100 Received: (from jor@localhost) by jorpc.ffa.se (8.7.5/8.6.9) id JAA04473; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:09:36 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: jor@ffa.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:05:29 +0100 (MET) From: Rikard Johnels To: (Melker =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E4ggbom?= Klingberg) Subject: Re: Live programmet... Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Status: O Har vi inte n=E5gon/n=E5gra tv/film utbildade i Nordmark som kan tota ihop en vettig dokumet=E4r om oss? Kanske bara SCA utan innblandning av live. Jag har f=E5tt kommentarer n=E5got i stil med vad "lajvare" f=E5r om att vi =E4r konstiga etc. etc. Vore det en ide=B4 att g=F6ra en kort film om vad vi EGENTLIGEN h=E5ller p= =E5 med? Om inte s=E5 kunde det vara kul att ha "internt" i f=F6reningen. Anyone with me? /IM (Iain MacCallum) ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Rikard Johnels Date: 17-Mar-97 Time: 09:09:35 ---------------------------------- Virginia law forbids bathtubs in the house; tubs must be kept in the yard. From nordmark-request Mon Mar 17 09:39:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from world.celsiustech.se (world.celsiustech.se [139.58.230.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08664 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:39:20 +0100 Received: from localhost (leeu@localhost) by world.celsiustech.se (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00635; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:39:09 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:39:08 +0100 (MET) From: Leif Euren X-Sender: leeu@world To: Rikard Johnels cc: Nordmark Mailing List Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Vettig_dokument=E4r_=28var=3A_Live_program?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?met=2E=2E=2E=29?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O Iain MacCallum: > Har vi inte n=E5gon/n=E5gra tv/film utbildade i Nordmark som kan tota iho= p > en vettig dokumet=E4r om oss? ... Anyone with me? Jod=E5. Jag har sedan n=E5got =E5r tillbaka diskuterat med diverse persone= r om ett synopsis till en film om SCA. De flesta har sagt att det =E4r bra; de som varit negativa har sagt att det inte g=E5r att genomf=F6ra. Av personliga sk=E4l kan jag inte delta i s=E5 mycket aktiviteter i framtiden, men mitt synopsis =E4r fritt fram att anv=E4nda. H=E4r kommer det i avkortad form: Filmen inleds p=E5 ett event. K=E4mpalek, folk i tjusiga dr=E4kter, hov, bankett... Efter banketten (eller kanske i v=E4ntan p=E5 banketten :-) sitter folk och pratar om kommande projekt. N=E5gon ska g=F6ra rustingsben, n=E5gon annan en tudor-kl=E4nning, en scrolla, skor... Eventet tar slut och folk =E5ker hem. Nu f=E5r man f=F6lja en person (l=E5t oss s=E4ga han med rustingsbenen), h= ur han g=F6r efterforskningar i litteratur, tittar p=E5 hur andra i SCA har gjort osv. Vi f=E5r f=F6lja med till smedjan och till hantverksm=F6ten i lokalgruppen. Till sist =E4r benen klara, och vi f=F6ljer med v=E5r hj=E4lte till ett event, d=E4r de anv=E4nds i en tornering. Vid torneringen b=E4r n=E5gon e= n ny tudor-kl=E4nning, en scrolla =F6verl=E4mnas och n=E5gon har nya skor -- samma personer som i b=F6rjan p=E5 filmen. Och vi l=E4mnar dem n=E4r de d= els kommenterar varandras avslutade projekt, dels diskuterar nya. Det h=E4r t=E4nkte jag skulle bli c:a 20 minuter, lagom f=F6r lite ytlig upplysning. /Peder Klingrode From nordmark-request Mon Mar 17 11:14:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mail.umu.se (dns.umu.se [130.239.8.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10864 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:14:44 +0100 Received: from [130.239.196.13] ([130.239.196.13]) by mail.umu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03066 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:14:42 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:16:23 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jorgen.jonsson@umf.umu.se (Jorgen Jonsson) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E5gskytte?= Status: O Hej! Jag skickade detta innan helgen men det hade inte dykt upp p=E5 min dator s= =E5 jag antar att det har f=F6rsvunnit n=E5gonstans p=E5 v=E4gen. Om det kommit = fram tidigare s=E5 ber jag om urs=E4kt. Jag har f=E5tt en del information om olika t=E4vlingar man kan ha inom b=E5gskyttet f=F6r att g=F6ra det hela lite roligare fr=E5n Sir Jon= Fitz-Rauf (som f=E5tt det fr=E5n andra i sin tur). T=E4nkte att detta kunde vara av= intresse f=F6r eventuella b=E5gskyttar. Sommaren b=F6rjar ju n=E4rma sig! Slit shoot: (6 inch by 2 foot vertical slit, representing an arrow slit in a castle wall- objective is to get arrows into the slit and kill the archer, arrows touching the lines don't count as they would have hit the edge of the stone). Braggart's shoot: Each archer takes six arrows and starts walking away from the target, putting an arrow or arrows into the ground at points where he/she thinks she/he can hit the objective- in this case, first to hit the tatget and first to hit the gold on the target. At the furtherest arrow from the target, that archer takes his arrow and shoots. If all objestives are not done, next archer shoots and so on, until either all arrows are shot or all objectives are met. A wand shoot: Run a strip of duct tape verically on the target face (green, red or other stand out color is great). At 20 yards, with six arrows, hit the tape. With good archers, if more then one archer hits the tape, go to 30 yards and out until only one archer hits the tape. If two or more hit at one range and all miss at the next, the archer with the most hits wins. Circle shoot: I have shot a contest of call shot in Calontir where the target face had different 4 inch circles. We had to call the color we were shooting for and got another shot (at another color) only if we hit the called color (this can be tough), range 20 yards. Thulish Distilation: We have a variety of target on 6 butts. We each get to shoot 6 arrows. The first person to shoot gets to call the 6 shoots of 1 arrow each. Example 60cm on butt five for reverse score, Bulleye on target 2, closest to the bottom left corner on 3, etc. After all archers have shot we tally the scores. Person with the highest score gets to call the next round. Lowest score gets to sit down once you go below 7 archers you shot 1 arrows less than the number of archers. In case of a tie between the two lowest archers all archers from previous round may stay in the shoot. Eventualy 2 archers get 1 shot where the first archer calls the shoot then shoot and the second archer gets to see where the first archer shoot and tries to do better or at least equal to the first archers shot. Bird: A bird effigy on a pole, if you have several sizes of poles, even better. You fire from quite near the base. War Doors: You get a couple of war doors from the heavy weapons fighters (these are the LARGE sheilds that are occasionally used for showers!) and have an archer huddled behind each one. When the call to shoot is given, the archer has five (5!) seconds to leap out, loose two arrows, and get COMPLETELY behind the shield again. Castle: Make an enclosure out of wood that has enough space for an archer to huddle behind, and has only a small slit to shoot out of. Timed event. Slit shoot - Take the contraption used in the Castle shoot, and put a target where the archer was. Archers then try to shoot INTO the slit Wreath: take some wreaths (straw wreaths used in flower arrangements will work) of different diameters. Zero points for hitting the wreath, NEGATIVE points for hitting outside the wreaths, and positive points for hitting inside with the smaller diameters worth more than the larger. Advancing Man - Two variations: Static: Have targets set up every 5 yards or so. Timed event where everyone starts by shooting the furthest target off, then switches to progressively nearer targets as the count goes on. Higher points for the further off targets. Dynamic: Have a target mounted on a sled or wagon, with a rope which goes through two pulleys. One at the archer's feet, the other the same distance away from the archer (although in a safe direction) as the target, then attaches to a harness which is worn by a fighter. A bell is placed near the archer. When the signal is given, the archer looses arrows at the target while the fighter runs towards the archer. When the fighter reaches (and rings) the bell, the shoot ends. As the fighter advances towards the archer, the target does too. Kinda fun, shooting at a moving target. Clout: A 70 yard range with a VERY large target. People have to shoot at 40+ degrees. Water Bag: I have not done this at SCA. I have seen it done at my archery club. Two plastic baggies of water that are attached to each other via string over a pulley. When you shoot one, it starts to lose water. You have until the other one hits the ground to hit it. "Travelling" target: Have a target (a mannikin in the livery of your traditional foes is usually good) mounted with a pulley on a taught wire. When a cable is pulled, the target moves. This could be combined with the dynamic advancing man if you wish. Reverse Scoring: A lot of fun. Just take the standard target and reverse the score points. You'll be surprised at how hard it is to deliberately get a large score. Lev och m=E5 Jurgen Danske From nordmark-request Mon Mar 17 16:19:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.Kemi.UU.SE [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18400 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:19:50 +0100 Received: from oopc40 (oopc40.Kemi.UU.SE) by akka.kemi.uu.se with SMTP id AA09474 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:16:47 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:16:47 +0100 Message-Id: <199703171516.AA09474@akka.kemi.uu.se> X-Sender: frithiof@akka X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Nordmark@Ludd.LuTH.SE From: Sven Noren Subject: Re: Live programmet... Status: O >Har vi inte n=E5gon/n=E5gra tv/film utbildade i Nordmark som kan tota ihop >en vettig dokumet=E4r om oss? Det finns en. F=F6r n=E5t =E5r sedan var det en tjej som gick medialinjen= h=E4r i Uppsala som gjorde en film om SCA, cirka 20 min-=BDtimme l=E5ng. Den visar= dans och klipp fr=E5n k=E4mpatr=E4ningsl=E4gret, uppblandat med intervjuer med= deltagare. Filmen har visats p=E5 lokalTV h=E4r. Jag =E5terkommer n=E4r jag har kollat upp fakta om hennes namn, upphovsr=E4t= t osv. Frithiof the Friendly Herald :-)[X] From nordmark-request Mon Mar 17 16:51:01 1997 Return-Path: <<@nomina.lu.se:janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se>> Received: from nomina.lu.se (nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA19239 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:51:00 +0100 Received: from janna2.kansli.lth.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA26109; Mon, 17 Mar 97 16:53:06 +0100 X-Sender: klth-jsp@pop.lu.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:50:44 +0200 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: janna.spanne@kansli.lth.se (Janna G Spanne) Subject: Rotting - =?iso-8859-1?Q?r=E4ttelse?= Status: O =46r=E5n Hans Excellens St=E5th=E5llaren fick jag nyligen reda p=E5 att Elektron-Nisse varit framme i hans meddelande i mars-Sparren om best=E4llnin= g av rotting. Sista best=E4llningsdatum =E4r SISTA *MARS* och ingenting annat. De flesta h= ar redan f=E5tt reda p=E5 det p=E5 andra s=E4tt, men det meddelas allts=E5 =E4v= en h=E4r. Allts=E5: rotting fr=E5n Baron Helmut, att levereras vid Dubbelkriget, kan best=E4llas fr=E5n st=E5th=E5llaren senast den siste *mars*. K=E4mpa p=E5!!! /Catrin From nordmark-request Mon Mar 17 23:55:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from sister.ludd.luth.se (xordph@sister.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.77]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00986; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:55:49 +0100 From: "L. J|rgen \hman" Received: (xordph@localhost) by sister.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id XAA16986; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:55:48 +0100 Message-Id: <199703172255.XAA16986@sister.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E5gskytte?= To: jorgen.jonsson@umf.umu.se (Jorgen Jonsson) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:55:48 +0100 (MET) Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-Reply-To: from Jorgen Jonsson at "Mar 17, 97 11:16:23 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O Hej ! > Hej! > > Jag skickade detta innan helgen men det hade inte dykt upp på min dator så > jag antar att det har försvunnit någonstans på vägen. Om det kommit fram > tidigare så ber jag om ursäkt. Den server som anv{nds f|r NML skickar inte brev tillbaka till avs{ndaren... Bara s} alla vet... MVH Styrbj|rn, N}jd. From nordmark-request Wed Mar 19 09:03:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from akka.kemi.uu.se (akka.Kemi.UU.SE [130.238.66.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA14732 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:03:25 +0100 Received: from oopc40 (oopc40.Kemi.UU.SE) by akka.kemi.uu.se with SMTP id AA18790 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:00:20 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:00:20 +0100 Message-Id: <199703190800.AA18790@akka.kemi.uu.se> X-Sender: frithiof@akka X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Nordmark@Ludd.LuTH.SE From: Sven Noren Subject: rustningar Status: O Jag fick det h=E4r via Drachenwalds e-postlista. =C4r det n=E5gon som antar utmaningen? >From: Jo_Grant/DUB/Lotus@lotus.com >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:24:34 +0000 >Subject: DML: The Search for Pathetic Armour > >At our event last weekend I got the usual grousing about my armour. >Alright, it is made of red, white and blue patchy plastic scales (which >shed) but I didn't think it was _that_ bad. Until someone accused me of >have "The Most Pathetic Armour in the Kingdom". I bridled somewhat at this >allegation but was hard pressed to think of someone with more pathetic >armour. >So I put this question to the DML in hopes of saving face: what is the most >pathetic set of armour you have seen in our kingdom? > >Capt. Seamus Frithiof the Friendly Herald :-)[X] From nordmark-request Wed Mar 19 10:36:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mail.umu.se (dns.umu.se [130.239.8.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16680 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:36:22 +0100 Received: from [130.239.181.185] (judeline.cligen.umu.se [130.239.181.185]) by mail.umu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07528 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:36:21 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:36:21 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: melkli@panther.cmb.umu.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Nordmark@Ludd.LuTH.SE From: Melker.Klingberg@cligen.umu.se (Melker =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E4ggbom?= Klingberg) Subject: Re: rustningar Status: O >Jag fick det h=E4r via Drachenwalds e-postlista. =C4r det n=E5gon som antar >utmaningen? >>At our event last weekend I got the usual grousing about my armour. >>Alright, it is made of red, white and blue patchy plastic scales (which >>shed) but I didn't think it was _that_ bad. Until someone accused me of >>have "The Most Pathetic Armour in the Kingdom". I bridled somewhat at this >>allegation but was hard pressed to think of someone with more pathetic >>armour. >>So I put this question to the DML in hopes of saving face: what is the mos= t >>pathetic set of armour you have seen in our kingdom? >> >>Capt. Seamus > > Frithiof the Friendly Herald :-)[X] Nej, det verkar sv=E5rslaget! Men jag tycker =E4nd=E5 att det =E4r mer patet= iskt med sj=E4lvutn=E4mnda experter som _aldrig_ f=E5r sin rustning f=E4rdig och = =E4nd=E5 har mage att klaga p=E5 dem som =E4r f=E4rdiga (jag h=F6rde till den skaran= i tv=E5 =E5r....). Hoppas att mannen med sin bl=E5-r=F6d-vita plastrustning brukar b= =E4ra den under en tabard! Melker (som borde arbeta!) From nordmark-request Wed Mar 19 15:03:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from karon.his.se (karon.his.se [193.10.176.23]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA24683 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:03:40 +0100 Received: from student.his.se (zeus.his.se) by karon.his.se (5.0/his.se-961218) id AA00562; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:10:10 +0100 Received: from [193.10.178.224] by student.his.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-HIS-LMJ960823.7) id PAA05856; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:04:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:04:01 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derqvist?= Subject: re: rustning Status: O Tja, mannen med ihoptejpade securitas skyltar vinner den matchen. Fast d=F6dskalle hj=E4lmen, mitt eget gamla "kopansar" och diverse plast konstruktioner finns ju alltid kvar som hemska skelett i nordmarks rustningsgarderob. From nordmark-request Wed Mar 19 15:18:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA25040 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:18:45 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA22148 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:20:50 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:24:26 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jan Frelin Subject: re: rustning Status: O >Tja, mannen med ihoptejpade securitas skyltar vinner den matchen. Fast >d=F6dskalle hj=E4lmen, mitt eget gamla "kopansar" och diverse plast >konstruktioner finns ju alltid kvar som hemska skelett i nordmarks >rustningsgarderob. Annars har vi Walderiks f=F6rsta rustning, f=F6rst=E5s. Man har inte hunnit = med att g=F6ra harnesk och benskydd, och ett k=E4mpatr=E4ningsl=E4ger n=E4rmar= sig. Vad g=F6ra? Jo man tar en gammal flytv=E4st (gul)... sen =E5terst=E5r bara benpa= nsar. D=E4r ligger en bit korrugerad pl=E5t... (klipp, klipp). S=E5d=E4r - en kjol= av fyra bitar! S=E5lunda gjorde Walderik sin premi=E4r innanf=F6r skrankorna! Hare, =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hartmann Rogge, Shire of Holmrike, Nordmark, Drachenwald Jan Frelin, Stockholm, Sweden jan.frelin@pub.mil.se From nordmark-request Wed Mar 19 15:56:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from ki.se (mbox.ki.se [130.237.207.77]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26046 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:55:29 +0100 Received: by ki.se id AA22094 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for nordmark@ludd.luth.se); Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:56:41 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:56:39 +0200 (METDST) From: Par Leijonhufvud Subject: re: rustning Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O Jag har sett en lorica segenetata (romerska rustningen a la=20 Asterix) tillverkad av (bitar av en) en gr=F6n soptunna. Klart vidrigt. Sedan har jag h=F6rt rykten om att n=E5gon i Nordmarks f=F6rhistoria skall = ha=20 tillberkat rustning av ett bussvindkydd... /UlfR -- Par Leijonhufvud par.leijonhufvud@labtek.ki.se=20 If you panic, be sure to run in the correct direction. From nordmark-request Wed Mar 19 16:07:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA26391 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:07:18 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA22206 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:09:24 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:13:00 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jan Frelin Subject: re: rustning Status: O >Sedan har jag h=F6rt rykten om att n=E5gon i Nordmarks f=F6rhistoria skall = ha >tillberkat rustning av ett bussvindkydd... Kan nog vara den korrugerade pl=E5t jag just n=E4mde?! mvh, =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hartmann Rogge, Shire of Holmrike, Nordmark, Drachenwald Jan Frelin, Stockholm, Sweden jan.frelin@pub.mil.se From nordmark-request Wed Mar 19 16:07:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mailc.telia.com (root@mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA26389 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:07:16 +0100 Received: from d1o25.telia.com (root@d1o25.telia.com [195.198.160.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA15503 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:07:15 +0100 Received: from t4o25p45.telia.com (t4o25p45.telia.com [195.198.160.225]) by d1o25.telia.com (8.8.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA02449 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:07:14 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199703191507.QAA02449@d1o25.telia.com> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:14:26 +0200 From: Daniel Larsson Subject: St: Egon i Gotvik To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se X-Mailer: EMBLA 1.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by d1o25.telia.com id QAA02449 Status: O Salve! T=E4nkte bara p=E5minna om St: Egon i Gotvik den 4 - 6 april . Sista=20 anm=E4lningsdagen =E4r snart (20 mars efter det 50 kr i =0D f=F6rseningsavgift). Hela paketet kostar 200 kr (210 om man vill =0D sl=E5ss). Betalas in p=E5 PG konto 83 32 08 - 2,=20 betalningsmottagare SKA Gotvik. Efter den 20:e kommer bekr=E4ftelser=20 att skickas ut. Om man inte har pengar nu men vet att man skall=20 =E5ka s=E5 g=E5r det att l=F6sa med betalning p=E5 plats. Det viktiga =E4= r att=20 veta om Ni kommer (dessutom slipper Ni f=F6rseningsavgiften). Vet ni inget om eventet s=E5 kan jag ber=E4tta att det kommer bli=20 schysst. Allt det vanliga finns men =E4ven lite nytt... Se sparren=20 f=F6r en ordentlig annons. Vi m=F6ts p=E5 Egon, M=E5ns Kotte From nordmark-request Wed Mar 19 18:29:30 1997 Return-Path: <<@nomina.lu.se:ralph@astro.lu.se>> Received: from nomina.lu.se (nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01394 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:29:29 +0100 Resent-Message-Id: <199703191729.SAA01394@zed.ludd.luth.se> Received: from nastol.astro.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA01634; Wed, 19 Mar 97 18:31:37 +0100 Received: by nastol.astro.lu.se(1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA218552567; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:29:28 +0100 Resent-From: Ralph Snel From: Ralph Snel Message-Id: <199703191729.AA218552567@nastol.astro.lu.se> Resent-To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:29:11 MET Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:29:26 MET To: parlei@ki.se (Par Leijonhufvud) Subject: re: rustning In-Reply-To: ; from "Par Leijonhufvud" at Mar 19, 97 3:56 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: O > Sedan har jag h=3DF6rt rykten om att n=3DE5gon i Nordmarks f=3DF6rhisto= ria skall =3D > ha=3D20 > tillberkat rustning av ett bussvindkydd... Eller uppskurna bild=E4ck i en arme-gr=F6n brigandine rustning. Polderslo= t. L=E4nge sen. Inte jag :) Ralph/Klodwick ralph@astro.lu.se From nordmark-request Thu Mar 20 08:38:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA20249 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:38:04 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA22801 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:40:10 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199703191729.AA218552567@nastol.astro.lu.se> References: ; from "Par Leijonhufvud" at Mar 19, 97 3:56 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:43:48 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jan Frelin Subject: re: rustning Status: O Ralph/Klodwick wrote: >Eller uppskurna bild=94ck i en arme-gr=96n brigandine rustning. Polderslot. >L=94nge sen. Inte jag :) Kom och t=E4nka p=E5 en annan h=F6jdare fr=E5n Juneborg, 88 - 89 s=E5d=E4r.= Man tager en uniform M59 och stoppar runt om med tre lager liggunderlag! Brrr. Tjena, Hartmann From nordmark-request Thu Mar 20 15:12:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mb01.swip.net (mb01.swip.net [193.12.122.81]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29394 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:12:50 +0100 Received: from mimers.brunn.janus.swipnet.se (dialup94-7-5.swipnet.se [130.244.94.145]) by mb01.swip.net (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA20747 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:12:49 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <33314593.D2B@swipnet.se> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:11:31 +0100 From: Frank&Kristin Reply-To: mimers.brunn@swipnet.se Organization: Mimers Brunn X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nordmarks Mailinglist Subject: SCA-Resension Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: O Jag skickade in en massa l=E4nkar till den Internet-tidning jag f=E5r gen= om mitt Tele2 abbonemang (internetworld, http://www.idg.se/iworld ). Dom verkat ta med en varje nummer och den h=E4r g=E5ngen var det sca.org:s tur... (halvcitat) Historia Rekreativ historia http://www.sca.org/ betyg (8 "blippar" av 10 m=F6jliga) "Vissa m=E4nniskor tycker s=E5 mycket om historia att de sj=E4lva vill le= va i den. S=E5 till exempel medlemmarna i Society for Creative Anacronism, som= =E4gnar sig =E5t att arrangera tornerspel. M=E4ngder av relevanta l=E4nka= r g=F6r detta till en unik sida, faktiskt" Ja, just det... T=E4nk p=E5 det under n=E4sta torn=E9rspel som DU arrange= rar :) Kolla dessutom http://www.georgetown.edu/labyrinth/labyrinth-home.html och http://www.demon.co.uk/past/vikings/ /R=F6de, Juneborg From nordmark-request Thu Mar 20 21:12:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA09880 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:12:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 7056 invoked from network); 20 Mar 1997 20:09:34 -0000 Received: from du168-92.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.92.168) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 20 Mar 1997 20:09:34 -0000 Message-ID: <33321B07.16E5@algonet.se> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:22:15 -0800 From: Mats Bergstrom X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mats.bergstrom@posten.se, nordmark@ludd.luth.se, Rikard Johnels Subject: Re: Live programmet... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O Rikard Johnels wrote: > > Har vi inte någon/några tv/film utbildade i Nordmark som kan tota ihop > en vettig dokumetär om oss? Kanske bara SCA utan innblandning av live. > Jag har fått kommentarer något i stil med vad "lajvare" får om att vi > är konstiga etc. etc. > Vore det en ide´ att göra en kort film om vad vi EGENTLIGEN håller på med? > Om inte så kunde det vara kul att ha "internt" i föreningen. > Anyone with me? > Jag skall tala med en medlem i Juneborg som kanske kan klippa ihop något, om han vill. /walderik Chatelain Nordmark Ps. I nye chatelainhandboken jag skall skicka ut på remiss nu har jag med några råd om massmedia. Det vore kul om fler hade lite egna erfarenheter och tips som jag kunde ta med i nästa upplaga. From nordmark-request Thu Mar 20 21:43:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA10722 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:43:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 13003 invoked from network); 20 Mar 1997 20:40:03 -0000 Received: from du168-92.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.92.168) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 20 Mar 1997 20:40:03 -0000 Message-ID: <3332222E.42DF@algonet.se> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:52:46 -0800 From: Mats Bergstrom X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: rustningar References: <199703190800.AA18790@akka.kemi.uu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O Sven Noren wrote: > > Jag fick det här via Drachenwalds e-postlista. Är det någon som antar > utmaningen? > > >From: Jo_Grant/DUB/Lotus@lotus.com > >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:24:34 +0000 > >Subject: DML: The Search for Pathetic Armour > > > >At our event last weekend I got the usual grousing about my armour. > >Alright, it is made of red, white and blue patchy plastic scales (which > >shed) but I didn't think it was _that_ bad. Until someone accused me of > >have "The Most Pathetic Armour in the Kingdom". I bridled somewhat at this > >allegation but was hard pressed to think of someone with more pathetic > >armour. > >So I put this question to the DML in hopes of saving face: what is the most > >pathetic set of armour you have seen in our kingdom? > > > >Capt. Seamus > > Frithiof the Friendly Herald :-)[X] Tja, min och Blekes första rustning var av ett ishockeyskydd, en flytväst och korigerad plåt som vi hittade i skogen och bonkade till på en eftermiddag. Inte snyggt, men allt för funktionabelt - jämför Henrik VIII's berömda plåtkillt. mvh Walderik From nordmark-request Thu Mar 20 21:52:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA10991 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:52:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 14399 invoked from network); 20 Mar 1997 20:48:52 -0000 Received: from du168-92.ppp.algonet.se (195.100.92.168) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 20 Mar 1997 20:48:52 -0000 Message-ID: <3332243E.5C0A@algonet.se> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:01:34 -0800 From: Mats Bergstrom X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: rustning References: ; from "Par Leijonhufvud" at Mar 19, 97 3:56 pm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O Jan Frelin wrote: > > Ralph/Klodwick wrote: > >Eller uppskurna bild”ck i en arme-gr–n brigandine rustning. Polderslot. > >L”nge sen. Inte jag :) > > Kom och tänka på en annan höjdare från Juneborg, 88 - 89 sådär. Man tager > en uniform M59 och stoppar runt om med tre lager liggunderlag! Brrr. > > Tjena, > Hartmann Jodå, Vi exprimenterade en hel del med formen :-) Korigerad plåt var som sagt var en annan, numera, förkastad ide. Trätalrikar skippade vi efter första testet, men gatkoner efter hela två år. Ytterliggare en rustning som såg nattens mörker var en grej av stora bylsiga kuddar med stoppning. Man såg ut lite som en brun Michelingubbe eller som en häft robbot. Varför görs inte sådana rusntningar numera? /Walderik Ps. Du glömde ammunitionslådorna som hörde till. From nordmark-request Fri Mar 21 11:22:09 1997 Return-Path: <<@goliat.dc.luth.se:jan.frelin@pub.mil.se>> Received: from goliat.dc.luth.se (root@goliat.dc.luth.se [130.240.12.20]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05770 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:22:08 +0100 Received: from unauthenticated@hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by goliat.dc.luth.se with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.2.8-NS) id AA04708; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:43:24 +0100 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA24187 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:45:30 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3332243E.5C0A@algonet.se> References: ; from "Par Leijonhufvud" at Mar 19, 97 3:56 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:49:07 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jan Frelin Subject: Re: rustning Status: O Walderik wrote: >Korigerad pl=E5t var som sagt var en annan, numera, f=F6rkastad ide. >Tr=E4talrikar skippade vi efter f=F6rsta testet, men gatkoner efter hela= tv=E5 =E5r. Tallrikarna kommer jag ih=E5g. De anv=E4ndes som h=F6ftskydd, och h=F6ll ung= ef=E4r tv=E5 tr=E4ffar. Lite synd, eftersom =E4garen hade t=E4nkt =E4ta p=E5 dem oc= ks=E5... Konplast anv=E4nds fortfarande av nyb=F6rjare i Holmrike - l=E4tt att arbeta= i och billigt :-) G=E5r dessutom att kl=E4 i med l=E4der och ser d=E5 r=E4tt= ok ut. Mvh, Hartmann From nordmark-request Fri Mar 21 11:28:25 1997 Return-Path: <<@goliat.dc.luth.se:silverfisken@goteborg.mail.telia.com>> Received: from goliat.dc.luth.se (root@goliat.dc.luth.se [130.240.12.20]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06584 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:28:24 +0100 Received: from root@mailb.telia.com by goliat.dc.luth.se with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.2.8-NS) id AA07469; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:38:31 +0100 Received: from d1o25.telia.com (root@d1o25.telia.com [195.198.160.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA27465 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:38:30 +0100 Received: from t6o25p50.telia.com (t6o25p50.telia.com [195.198.161.110]) by d1o25.telia.com (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA08053 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:38:24 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:38:24 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199703210838.JAA08053@d1o25.telia.com> X-Sender: u31700719@m1.317.telia.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: silverfisken Subject: Re: Rustning Status: O Hej! Det l=E5ter lite som om det bara =E4r Juneborgare som =E4r experter p=E5 att= bygga bizarra rustningsliknande konstruktioner. Jag minns att det en g=E5ng i= tiden fanns en kille i Tingvalla som gick under namnet "Riddaren av Duct-tape". Vad hans rustning bestod av =E4r inte sv=E5rt att r=E4kna ut.=20 (Men duct-tape kanske =E4r mer att r=E4kna som standard =E4n fel... ;-) /Torkil! From nordmark-request Fri Mar 21 11:44:07 1997 Return-Path: <<@nomina.lu.se:ralph@astro.lu.se>> Received: from nomina.lu.se (nomina.lu.se [130.235.132.90]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07835 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:44:06 +0100 Received: from nastol.astro.lu.se by nomina.lu.se with SMTP (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA23419; Fri, 21 Mar 97 11:46:16 +0100 Received: by nastol.astro.lu.se(1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA237071043; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:44:03 +0100 From: Ralph Snel Message-Id: <199703211044.AA237071043@nastol.astro.lu.se> Subject: Re: Rustning To: silverfisken@goteborg.mail.telia.com (silverfisken) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:44:03 MET Cc: nordmark@ludd.luth.se In-Reply-To: <199703210838.JAA08053@d1o25.telia.com>; from "silverfisken" at Mar 21, 97 9:38 am X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 112.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: O > fanns en kille i Tingvalla som gick under namnet "Riddaren av Duct-tape= ". Eller Nicolas de Mont Nord, efter att ha varit p=E5 Polderslaughter i mycket regn: Sir rust-a-lot. Det var hans barbariska rustning, med lite ringbrynja h=E4r och d=E4r, och efter regnet dessutom en 5 storlekar= mindre fusk-p=E4ls :) Ralph/Klovis From nordmark-request Fri Mar 21 12:44:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from karon.his.se (karon.his.se [193.10.176.23]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09518 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:44:24 +0100 Received: from student.his.se (zeus.his.se) by karon.his.se (5.0/his.se-961218) id AA10614; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:50:55 +0100 Received: from [193.10.178.224] by student.his.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-HIS-LMJ960823.7) id MAA17530; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:44:46 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:44:46 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derqvist?= Subject: re:rustningar Status: O Mmm..jag minns Giovanni Galli och Arnouls f=F6rst rustningar. Rosa Visby pansar med lameller helt i 2mm pl=E5t. De v=E4gde bly men anv=E4ndes inte ba= ra som pansar utan =E4ven som sovs=E4ck vi diverse evenemang... From nordmark-request Sat Mar 22 03:13:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mailb.telia.com (root@mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA29217 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:13:18 +0100 Received: from d1o25.telia.com (root@d1o25.telia.com [195.198.160.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id DAA27769 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:13:17 +0100 Received: from t4o25p53.telia.com (t4o25p53.telia.com [195.198.160.233]) by d1o25.telia.com (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA23947 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:13:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:13:14 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199703220213.DAA23947@d1o25.telia.com> X-Sender: u31700719@m1.317.telia.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: silverfisken Subject: Re: Rustning Status: O >From: Ralph Snel >> >> fanns en kille i Tingvalla som gick under namnet "Riddaren av Duct-tape". > >Eller Nicolas de Mont Nord, efter att ha varit p=E5 Polderslaughter i >mycket regn: Sir rust-a-lot. Det var hans barbariska rustning, med >lite ringbrynja h=E4r och d=E4r, och efter regnet dessutom en 5 storlekar >mindre fusk-p=E4ls :) > > >Ralph/Klovis > > Nja, det var nog inte han jag menade. Men han den d=E4r Nicke har nog gjort mycket kul. H=F6rru Audhan, kan inte du ber=E4tta den d=E4r historien om tutt-hj=E4lmen?! Den tyckte jag var kul... /Torkil! From nordmark-request Sat Mar 22 03:30:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mailb.telia.com (root@mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA29496 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:30:07 +0100 Received: from d1o25.telia.com (root@d1o25.telia.com [195.198.160.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id DAA29162 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:30:06 +0100 Received: from t8o25p31.telia.com (t8o25p31.telia.com [195.198.161.211]) by d1o25.telia.com (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA23991 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:29:51 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 03:29:51 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199703220229.DAA23991@d1o25.telia.com> X-Sender: u31700719@m1.317.telia.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: silverfisken Subject: re:rustningar Status: O At 12.44 21-03-1997 +0100, you wrote: >Mmm..jag minns Giovanni Galli och Arnouls f=F6rst rustningar. Rosa Visby >pansar med lameller helt i 2mm pl=E5t. De v=E4gde bly men anv=E4ndes inte= bara >som pansar utan =E4ven som sovs=E4ck vi diverse evenemang... > > > Och dessutom s=E5 kan man minnas n=E4r Gl=F6mme d=E4ckade tillsammans med= Decker i R=F6des rustning under bron utanf=F6r norderport. R=F6de var skitsur,= eftersom hans brynja rostade... Och Decker var glad som en sann Ulvbergare.... F=F6r salig var den tid d=E5 spontaniteten h=E4rskade =F6ver realiteten, och flottigheten var en utopi uti det kalla fastlandet... /Torkil! From nordmark-request Sat Mar 22 07:31:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (sirjon@netcom8.netcom.com [192.100.81.117]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA03382 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 07:31:08 +0100 Received: (from sirjon@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id WAA06858; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:30:31 -0800 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:30:31 -0800 (PST) From: John Edgerton Subject: sca siege engine rules Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O Greetings The SCA Marshal's Handbook is being updated. I want to add a section for combat and target siege engines. Input from those with siege weapon knowledge and experience is needed. If you have this knowledge and are interested in joining the discussion, then you can subscribe to the Siege Engine mailing list where this is under discussion. To subscribe to the siege mailing list: Send mail to: listserv@morgan.ucs.mun.ca with the body of the message reading: subscribe siege (your name here) Sir Jon Fitz-Rauf, SCA Archery Marshal sirjon@netcom.com From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 09:15:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from glacier.wise.edt.ericsson.se (glacier-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [193.180.251.38]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22357 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:15:09 +0200 From: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from edt02.ericsson.se (edt02.ericsson.se [136.225.9.4]) by glacier.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-0.9) with ESMTP id IAA26190; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:15:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc-mail.ericsson.se by eds.ericsson.se (PMDF V5.0-6 #16175) id <01IGVGW775S091Z2Z9@eds.ericsson.se>; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:12:49 +0100 Received: by pc-mail.ericsson.se via MsMail with Mimetic; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:14 +0100 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:16 +0100 Subject: Dragon's Tale on the web (DML) To: jaymin@maths.tcd.ie, nordmark@ludd.luth.se Message-id: <01IGVGW77P2Q91Z2Z9@eds.ericsson.se> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Status: O Greetings all, I just wanted to announce that the Dragon's Tale is now available on the=20 web. It can be found at the Drachenwald home page at=20 http://www.users.wineasy.se/gilliam/ In service Lord Gilliam Blackhorn Keeper of the Drachenwald web pages From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 10:03:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from hplb.hpl.hp.com (hplb.hpl.hp.com [15.255.59.2]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23289 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:03:45 +0200 Received: from valhall.sweden.hp.com by hplb.hpl.hp.com; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:03:43 GMT Received: from graz (graz.sweden.hp.com) by valhall.sweden.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.4 Openmail) id AA148440621; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:03:41 +0100 Message-Id: <3336355C.688E@hp.com> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:03:40 +0100 From: Marie Schroder Reply-To: marie_schroder@hp.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: About to disappear! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O Hellllooooo all! As of this coming Thursday you won't be able to reach my directly via e-mail any longer. SOB! I'll be leaving my current job and until I get another e-mail address you can reach me via Master Hartman Rogge's mail (Yes, Harabanar!) jan.frelin@pub.mil.se See you Mistress Marie d'Alise-Saint-Reine (Marie Schröder) From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 10:29:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mail.umu.se (dns.umu.se [130.239.8.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23863 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:29:42 +0200 Received: from [130.239.196.13] ([130.239.196.13]) by mail.umu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10643 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:29:40 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:31:37 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jorgen.jonsson@umf.umu.se (Jorgen Jonsson) Subject: sca siege engine rules Status: O Hej! N=E5gon =E4r kanske intresserad av detta? Jurgen Danske >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:30:31 -0800 (PST) >From: John Edgerton >Subject: sca siege engine rules >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Greetings > > The SCA Marshal's Handbook is being updated. I want to add a >section for combat and target siege engines. > > Input from those with siege weapon knowledge and experience is >needed. If you have this knowledge and are interested in joining the >discussion, then you can subscribe to the Siege Engine mailing list where >this is under discussion. > > To subscribe to the siege mailing list: > >Send mail to: listserv@morgan.ucs.mun.ca with the body of the message >reading: subscribe siege (your name here) > > >Sir Jon Fitz-Rauf, SCA Archery Marshal >sirjon@netcom.com > V=E4nliga h=E4lsningar/Best regards **************************** J=F6rgen J=F6nsson Ume=E5 Marine Sciences Center Norrbyn S-910 20 H=D6RNEFORS SWEDEN Phone: +46-(0)90 167979 =46ax: +46-(0)90 167995 E-mail: jorgen.jonsson@umf.umu.se http://www.umu.se/umf **************************** Home: Orienteringsstigen 8C S-903 38 Ume=E5 Phone: +46-(0)90 137456 **************************** From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 14:39:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mail.umu.se (dns.umu.se [130.239.8.10]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00368 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:39:20 +0200 Received: from [130.239.196.13] ([130.239.196.13]) by mail.umu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA14945 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:39:18 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:41:16 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: jorgen.jonsson@umf.umu.se (Jorgen Jonsson) Subject: Humor or History Status: O Hej! Lite kul l=E4sning s=E5 h=E4r p=E5 m=E5ndagseftermiddagen. Danske >Subject: FW: WHERE DID THAT GESTURE COME FROM? > >WHERE DID THAT GESTURE COME FROM? > >The 'Car Talk' show (on NPR) with Click and Clack, the Tappet >Brothers have a feature called the 'Puzzler', and their most >recent 'Puzzler' was about the battle of Agincourt. The >French, who were overwhelmingly favored to win the battle, >threatened to cut a certain body part off of all captured >English soldiers so that they could never fight again. The >English won in a major upset and waved the body part in >question at the French in defiance. > >The puzzler was: What was this body part? > >This is the answer submitted by a listener: > >Dear Click and Clack, Thank you for the Agincourt 'Puzzler', >which clears up some profound questions of etymology, folklore >and emotional symbolism. The body part which the French >proposed to cut off of the English after defeating them was, >of course, the middle finger, without which it is impossible >to draw the renowned English longbow. This famous weapon was >made of the native English yew tree, and so the act of drawing >the longbow was known as "plucking yew". Thus, when the >victorious English waved their middle fingers at the defeated >French, they said, "See, we can still pluck yew! PLUCK YEW!" > >Over the years some 'folk etymologies' have grown up around >this symbolic gesture. Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult >to say (like "pleasant mother pheasant plucker", which is who >you had to go to for the feathers used on the arrows), the >difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually >changed to a labiodental fricative 'f', and thus the words >often used in conjunction with the one-finger-salute are >mistakenly thought to have something to do with an intimate >encounter. It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the >arrows that the symbolic gesture is known as "giving the >bird". > >And yew all thought yew knew everything! > >John Macandrew >(Forwarded to me) From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 16:32:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from mail.swip.net (mn4.swip.net [192.71.180.65]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA04281 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:32:39 +0200 From: jannis.koukoutsas@carta.se Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/3.01) id PAA07775; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:32:39 +0100 Message-ID: <199703241432.PAA07775@mail.swip.net> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:23:30 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fest_p=E5_Loftet_12/4_i_Stockholm?= MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /220000000/221030220/221000864/221090235/ Status: O Fest p=E5 Loftet, p=E5 Kungsgatan i Stockholm, L=F6rdagen den 12/4 kl 18:00= och=20 fram=E5t.=20 Alla =E4r v=E4lkomna, =E4ven ni som inte bor i stan.=20 M=E5 ni alla =E5tnjuta massor med Whiskey, Kvinnor (M=E4n) , och S=E5ng, Petrc Monomachos From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 16:59:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from karon.his.se (karon.his.se [193.10.176.23]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA05106 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:59:44 +0200 Received: from student.his.se (zeus.his.se) by karon.his.se (5.0/his.se-961218) id AA03485; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:06:19 +0100 Received: from [193.10.178.222] by student.his.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-HIS-LMJ960823.7) id QAA19394; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:00:06 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:04:35 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derqvist?= Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tutthj=E4lmen=2Dthe?= story. Status: O Ni k=E4nner kanske till Nicolas de Mont Nords f=F6rsta basinet. Den g=E5r = =E4ven under smeknamnet "tutt-hj=E4lmen", p=E5 grund av dess utseende... Herr Mont Nord st=E5r och sl=F6jdar en basinet nere i sin smedja. Alltefter hj=E4lmtoppen b=F6rjar ta form inser han att den inte riktigt ser ut som en topp utan mer som ett kvinnobr=F6st! S=E5 vad ska man g=F6ra? Jo den gode Mo= nt Nord svetsar dit en lite br=F6stv=E5rta s=E5 att man ska f=E5 ett schysst helhetsintryck. Och =E4nnu en ustningsklassiker var f=F6dd... /Jonas From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 17:04:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05258 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:04:53 +0200 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA27429 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:06:55 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3C4DC04B1@midgard.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:10:41 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jan Frelin Subject: re: rustning Status: O >En s=E5nn s=E5g jag p=E5 kn=E4cke F=D6RR F=D6RRA =E5ret!!! >/Grunkor och grejjer AB En vad?! >Jonas Lindstr=F6m >e-mail: mx95_lij@m.kth.se /Hartmann =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hartmann Rogge, Shire of Holmrike, Nordmark, Drachenwald Jan Frelin, Stockholm, Sweden jan.frelin@pub.mil.se From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 17:03:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from karon.his.se (karon.his.se [193.10.176.23]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05234 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:03:55 +0200 Received: from student.his.se (zeus.his.se) by karon.his.se (5.0/his.se-961218) id AA03506; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:10:29 +0100 Received: from [193.10.178.222] by student.his.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-HIS-LMJ960823.7) id QAA19467; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:04:16 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199703220229.DAA23991@d1o25.telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:08:47 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derqvist?= Subject: re:rustningar Status: O >At 12.44 21-03-1997 +0100, you wrote: >>Mmm..jag minns Giovanni Galli och Arnouls f=F6rst rustningar. Rosa Visby >>pansar med lameller helt i 2mm pl=E5t. De v=E4gde bly men anv=E4ndes inte = bara >>som pansar utan =E4ven som sovs=E4ck vi diverse evenemang... >> >> >> >Och dessutom s=E5 kan man minnas n=E4r Gl=F6mme d=E4ckade tillsammans med= Decker i >R=F6des rustning under bron utanf=F6r norderport. R=F6de var skitsur, efter= som >hans brynja rostade... Och Decker var glad som en sann Ulvbergare.... F=F6r >salig var den tid d=E5 spontaniteten h=E4rskade =F6ver realiteten, och >flottigheten var en utopi uti det kalla fastlandet... > > >/Torkil! Jo d=E5, den gode D=E4cker har ju inte bara gjort den tabben i sina dagar. B=E4st i testet "hur man skaffar sig v=E4nner i en medeltidsf=F6rening" =E4r= helt klart: L=E5na n=E5gons gotiska helpl=E5trustning. S=E4g att du ska k=F6pa den. L=E5t den rosta. L=E4mna tillbaka den ett =E5r senare och l=E5tsas som om det regnar. Vo=ECla! Du f=E5r j=E4tte m=E5nga sn=E4lla och trevliga kompisar. =2E..eller ocks=E5 inte. D=E4cker =E4r inte s=E5 aktiv l=E4ngre... /Jonas From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 17:17:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05684 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:17:52 +0200 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA27458 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:19:55 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199703220229.DAA23991@d1o25.telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:23:41 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jan Frelin Subject: re:rustningar Status: O Aodhan: >B=E4st i testet "hur man skaffar sig v=E4nner i en medeltidsf=F6rening" =E4= r helt >klart: > >L=E5na n=E5gons gotiska helpl=E5trustning. >S=E4g att du ska k=F6pa den. >L=E5t den rosta. >L=E4mna tillbaka den ett =E5r senare och l=E5tsas som om det regnar. >Vo=ECla! Du f=E5r j=E4tte m=E5nga sn=E4lla och trevliga kompisar. Coolt. Nu =E5terst=E5r bara: vem f-n e D=E4cker? Och vems var rustningen? >...eller ocks=E5 inte. D=E4cker =E4r inte s=E5 aktiv l=E4ngre... > >/Jonas Undrar Hartmann From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 17:23:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from karon.his.se (karon.his.se [193.10.176.23]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05866 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:23:27 +0200 Received: from student.his.se (zeus.his.se) by karon.his.se (5.0/his.se-961218) id AA03740; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:29:55 +0100 Received: from [193.10.178.222] by student.his.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-HIS-LMJ960823.7) id QAA19944; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:23:42 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:28:14 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derqvist?= Subject: re: rustning Status: O En tutthj=E4lm? Eller n=E5got annat? /Jonas From nordmark-request Mon Mar 24 17:28:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from karon.his.se (karon.his.se [193.10.176.23]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA06016 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:28:43 +0200 Received: from student.his.se (zeus.his.se) by karon.his.se (5.0/his.se-961218) id AA03790; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:35:13 +0100 Received: from [193.10.178.222] by student.his.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-HIS-LMJ960823.7) id QAA20101; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:29:00 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:33:31 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jonas =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derqvist?= Subject: re: rustningar Status: O D=E4cker =E4r en f=F6reg=E5ngare till extra-Olle, fast inte lika= p=E5frestande. I vilket fall inte p=E5frestande p=E5 samma s=E4tt. D=E4cker gl=F6mmer mest= saker hela tiden. Han Var en Ulvdbergare, men det har vi sp=F6at ur honom... Rustningen var Torulf af Kr=E5ks och han var inte helt n=F6jd... /Jonas From nordmark-request Wed Mar 26 14:12:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from hermes.pub.mil.se ([193.241.212.198]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17727 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:12:56 +0200 Received: from [193.241.212.85] ([193.241.212.85]) by hermes.pub.mil.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA00436 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:14:59 -0500 X-Sender: jan.frelin@hermes.pub.mil.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:18:48 +0100 To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se From: Jan Frelin Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sym=E4ssa?= i =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6teborg?= Status: O =46inns den n=E5n Gotvikare d=E4r ute som =E4r intresserad av detta: S=E5g att en sym=E4ssa skall genomf=F6ras i G=F6teborg av samma g=E4ng som= gjort den p=E5 Sollentunam=E4ssan. Vi fick genomf=F6ra en demo d=E4r och den var myck= et framg=E5ngsrik. Kolla: http://www.sollfair.se/info/syfest97/ (tyv=E4rr r=E4tt trist hemsida, men i alla fall...) Om n=E5n vill veta hur gjorde g=E5r det bra att kontakta undertecknad. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hartmann Rogge, Shire of Holmrike, Nordmark, Drachenwald Jan Frelin, Stockholm, Sweden jan.frelin@pub.mil.se From nordmark-request Thu Mar 27 15:10:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from brother.ludd.luth.se (bubba@brother.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.78]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27469 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:10:53 +0200 From: "U.J|rgen \hman" Received: (bubba@localhost) by brother.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA15421 for nordmark; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:10:50 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:10:50 +0100 Message-Id: <199703271310.OAA15421@brother.ludd.luth.se> To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Subject: Hej & H} Status: O Glad p}sk allesammans. / Ulf M From nordmark-request Thu Mar 27 15:40:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from janus.swip.net (janus.swip.net [193.12.122.49]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28255 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:40:29 +0200 Received: from allegro (dialup71-8-7.swipnet.se [130.244.71.167]) by janus.swip.net (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04979 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:40:28 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <333AF74D.7656@swipnet.se> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:40:13 -0800 From: Lisa Bonnier X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-Tele2 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nordmarks mailing list Subject: 08-Kriget Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Status: O Hej allihop! N=E5 kommer ni till 08-Kriget eller ? Det blir =E5rets happining, s=E5 ni f=E5r ju inte missa tillf=E4llet att = vara med p=E5 F E S T E N !!!!!!!! Autokraterna Holmrike Rules From nordmark-request Thu Mar 27 17:24:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from glacier.wise.edt.ericsson.se (glacier-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [193.180.251.38]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00616 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:24:25 +0200 From: anders.olsson@era.ericsson.se Received: from eds05.ericsson.se (eds05.ericsson.se [136.225.9.2]) by glacier.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-0.9) with ESMTP id QAA26018 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:24:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc-mail.ericsson.se by eds.ericsson.se (PMDF V5.0-6 #16175) id <01IH04UMRGVK91ZZHJ@eds.ericsson.se> for nordmark@ludd.luth.se; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:21:55 +0100 Received: by pc-mail.ericsson.se via MsMail with Mimetic; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:25 +0100 Subject: FW: New Email List Forming (ikac-list) To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Message-id: <01IH04UMS05U91ZZHJ@eds.ericsson.se> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Status: O Kanske kan vara av intresse? /Gilliam ---------- From: John Edgerton To: anders.olsson Subject: New Email List Forming (ikac-list) Date: den 27 March 1997 15.37 SCA-MissleCombat is now forming Topics: SCA Combat Archery, Javelins, Seige Engines, and other hurled weapons for use in SCA rattan melees Subscriptions: Send email to listserver@wyvernhall.com with the message subscribe sca-missilecombat Lord Macsen ap Rhys of Wyvernhall, GMB (macsen@wyvernhall.com) Archer, Herald, Chirurgeon, Bowman's Rest, BBM, EK http://www.wyvernhall.com/household/macsen.htm __________________________________________________________________ Email listserver@wyvernhall.com the text "unsubscribe SCA-ARCHERY" to leave this list or contact listadmin@wyvernhall.com Listpage is http://www.wyvernhall.com/sca/sca-archery.html From nordmark-request Thu Mar 27 20:11:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.algonet.se (tomei.algonet.se [194.213.74.114]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA03553 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:11:07 +0200 Message-Id: <199703271811.UAA03553@zed.ludd.luth.se> Received: (qmail 13440 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1997 18:12:17 -0000 Received: from du68-97.ppp.algonet.se (HELO gbj.algonet.se) (195.100.97.68) by tomei.algonet.se with SMTP; 27 Mar 1997 18:12:17 -0000 From: "Andreas Ringsparr" To: "Tom Singer" , "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tor_Kjellstr=F6m?=" , "Susanne Graslund" , "Oskar Hobbe Olofsson" , "Nordmarks Mailling Lista" , "Mia Svensson" , "L-P Sundqvist" , "Linus Nestor" , "Arild" , "Bill Nillson" , "Magdalena & David" , "Maria" , "Pappa & Mamma" , "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kjell_Sj=F6str=F6m?=" , , "Hans Eriksson" , "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Lindman?=" , "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Glenn_Lidstr=F6m?=" , "Boris Karlsson" , "Frank & Kristin" , "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Klas_=C5kerskog?=" , "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mats_Bergstr=F6m?=" , "Roger Antonijev" , "Emma Roos" , "Claes SirKratta" , "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Annika_S=F6derlund?=" , "Anna Munoz Lundgren" , Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Glad_P=E5sk?= Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:11:23 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O Jag vill önska en riktigt glad påsk till er alla. 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Glad Påsk /Andreas (There is defintily something out there) From nordmark-request Mon Mar 31 18:05:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from f14.hotmail.com (F14.hotmail.com [207.82.250.25]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00284 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:05:39 +0200 Received: (from root@localhost) by f14.hotmail.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA08613; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 08:04:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 08:04:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703311604.IAA08613@f14.hotmail.com> Received: from 130.244.147.24 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 08:04:51 PST X-Originating-IP: [130.244.147.24] From: " Kristian Fagerström" To: nordmark@ludd.luth.se Cc: richard.emanuelsson@swipnet.se Subject: suscribe me Content-Type: text/plain Status: O Vänl. sätt upp mig på listan(detta skickas ej ifrån min dator, adreassen är enl.nedan) arngrim@hotmail.com arngrim@hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------